Demi Lovato rants about Yogurt?! “Telling Me to Eat Healthy is Unhealthy”

Episode Summary

(Episode 9) In this episode, Julius Randle has a story to tell. What can we learn from it and the impact of Kobe and his legacy on players today. We are calling Demi Lovato to the front of the class, I had to bring up #FroYoGate and her gripe with The Big Chill yogurt shop. Have you ever been triggered by healthy food options? We must discuss this! I also talk about the housing market and its future stability. Are we looking at a bubble like the one from 2008? 

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Demi Lovato Yogurt Rant Episode

Demi Lovato rants about Yogurt?! “Telling Me to Eat Healthy is Unhealthy” (Episode 9) Karat Juice Podcast
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Knicks’ Julius Randle reveals epic story of how Lakers icon Kobe Bryant changed his career forever

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https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/18/demi-lovato-frozen-yogurt-fat-free-diet-culture-vulture/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petertaylor/2021/04/18/yes-americas-housing-market-is-officially-over-heating-everywhere-how-long-can-it-last/?sh=65ff9a224437

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Podcast Transcript:

Montay Lee 0:02
Welcome, welcome. Welcome to Episode Eight of Karat Juice. Today is April 12. And yeah, hope everybody’s doing great. It’s been a lot going on this past week. So we’re just gonna get right into it here today after a little bit of housekeeping. So if you haven’t done so already, please subscribe to the podcast. If you enjoy the content. Don’t be afraid to go to Apple podcasts, leave me a review. I enjoy putting this content out there. And if by you by doing that, you really help out the program. And I’d really appreciate it. So the first thing that I wanted to cover I just wanted to say my condolences to DMX the passing of a legend. He passed on April 9. I’ve seen a lot of people reaching out given their condolences. I just want to say condolences to dark man X, Earl Simmons. Thoughts and condolences go out to his family and this time. I know he was a spiritual man. So I hope that he’s in a good place and that he’s at peace right now. I know he had a lot of turbulence in his life. And I want to remember his life and some and some of the impacts that he’s had on me growing up as a youth so if you don’t know who DMX was DMX stands for Darkman X. DMX was an artist that I gravitated towards as a young person because his style his sound was unlike anybody I’ve ever heard. I was drawn to the grit, the brash and the energetic delivery, that he laid down over drums and bass. I remember trying to remember some of his verses on the top bunk bed at my mom’s house when I was 10 years old. I was trying to get the cadence just right as I wrote down each line of the Rough Riders anthem. I remember saying Stop, drop. shut him down. Open up shop. Oh, no. That’s a Rough Riders row. Stop. Drop. shut him down, open up shop. Oh, no, that’s a rough Rados row. If you from the 90s You remember that? I remember that. I think I remember that I was 10. I remember trying to remember the verse just right writing it down doing it over and over again. And no matter how hard I try, I can never get it just like Earl DMX good. But I tried anyway. And I also look back to a time look back at that time, and I realize now that I didn’t have a clue about a lot of that subject matter. I just relished in how it sounded in the spirit and the energy and the soul behind his voice. The track that track was on DMX his 1998 masterpiece of an album, called entitled, it’s dark and Hill is hot. A lot of the tracks in that album had a lot of the duality between heaven and hell good and evil. And I felt like it correlated to a lot of the inner struggles and inner demons that he had going on in his life and throughout his life. As I got older, and I grew up, I didn’t follow him as close. But that music and those memories still sit with me to this day. And I thank him for putting out that energy and putting out that content because it was a big part of my childhood. Also wanted to say fun fact about Earl Simmons. He was born on December 18 1970 in Yonkers, New York. He lived life on the edge and he eventually passed away like I said previously on April 9 something that I didn’t know about DMX that I learned last week.

In the late 1980s, he started performing As a beatboxer, creating beats using only his mouth with a local rapper named ready Ron. He took the name DMX from the Oberheim DMX drum machine, a model popular in the 1980s. He also said he was 14 when ready Ron introduced him to crack cocaine by passing him what he thought was marijuana. He later found out that he laced the blunt with crack DMS DMX told the rapper to lead quality that in an interview last year he asked why would you do that to a child and he became an addicted to it. So he got introduced to introduced to crack cocaine. Because one of his mentors passed a block of marijuana to he had no clue that it was laced with crack cocaine. And eventually, throughout all the successes and his successes in his life, he never overcome overcame that addiction. Because the reason for his death that happened a couple of days ago actually had to do with an overdose that led to the health complications that ultimately ended him passing. So there’s a lot there, there’s a lot of process. What I also want to say is DMX was very talented and charismatic. He was also very troubled and struggled. Those things can both be true, and unfortunately, he never truly conquered his relationship with substances and it eventually was a factor in his passing. I think a thing that people can learn moving forward from this is even though he was in those circles, under those circumstances, he lived his life fully and he made the most of a tough predicament. And he also always made sure to give back to people and thank thank them he moved with humility, and always pray during his concerts and during his in his performances, he seemed to have a connection to a higher power into God. So again, I just want to say recipes Earl Simmons, thank you for the music for your content you will be missed, you will be remembered. And now put a bow on this segment with a quote from none other than Earl Simmons dark man x if you’re influencing people I think you should consider life is too precious to have them chasing the wrong things. Don’t give them jewelry, give them jewels

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alright, so a different tone from where we started the show. Take my SIP here

okay so I don’t know if you guys already know about the magazine Cosmopolitan magazine cosmopolitan link up here started make sure in the 60s and I am talking about this topic due to article that I discover and learned about through content that I’ve been watching. So, cosmos, the article is from The Guardian came out in 2012, but it states cosmopolitan and the false promise of an awesome life. This is by Gail Dines. So the main reason behind the Cosmopolitan magazine it was giving sex tips to snag your man may sell ads but Cosmo’s formula for success is selling young woman desperately short on aspiration. So, in this article it leads with last Sunday’s New York Times Magazine ran a four page story on Cosmopolitan that failed to mention the main point of the magazine. Its content is designed to attract readers in order to sell their eyeballs to the advertisers. So Cosmo as females like to call it was celebrated by writer Edith Zimmerman as a fun magazine packed with handy sex tips relationship and beauty advice and hints on how to make it in the workplace. So that was the main ploy main goal of Cosmopolitan was to advertise to get women to buy certain products, that a certain type of lifestyle you know, really a Sex in the City lifestyle would bring. So pushing all the different types of products that that entails, you know, jewelry, or might make up all different types of products, a hair products, different types of dresses and all that that lifestyle was marketed by advertisers and Cosmo in unison to sell single women more because on average does the statistic show women single women purchase consume at a very high rate way higher than single men or married women that for that? So basically, what happened and what this article is stating, I’ll go further into it so we can get into it so so the writer Eat eat of Zimmerman, she explored the way the magazine strategically manipulated and reshape itself to appeal to readers in more sexually conservative countries. But she gives Cosmos senior editor Jessica Kroll the last word for Croll reading Cosmo, May her want to grow up were pretty dress nice heels, move to the city and have an awesome life. And she also said, I don’t think that’s a bad thing to want, you know. So it was sparking this movement, this, you know, relations in the city lifestyle. And that coincided with the feminist movement, which started in that same time frame in the 60s. So the article goes on to state indeed, feminists also want women to have awesome lives. It’s just that they don’t think pretty dresses and nice heels are the way you get it. So all basically long story short is the cosmopolitan dream the Sex in the City lifestyle, all that that afford it was actually a ploy by Cosmo to market to single women because single women are the still to this day consume more products than any other, you know, demographic. So my take on this Cosmo lie to you.

And this type of role was corporations, marketing to women to keep them single to keep them purchasing and consuming more and more is something that is started to pervade our society. So basically, what I’m trying to say is just open your eyes. Before you purchase something, something asked, Is this going to add any value to my life? And my purchasing this because somebody sold me a dream that I’m going to have an awesome life if I have this amazing bag? Or is it something that I truly want? If you truly want that bag, then go for it. But don’t be coaxed into thinking that you’re going to have an awesome life or a better life because of something that you purchased because that is what’s being sold to you and it’s manipulative. And even the people who created Cosmo admitted that they lie to you guys, they lied to women and they told you they sold you this awesome life and a lot of the articles and the people that they they documented in these articles were actually fake people. They were implants in Midwestern cities and places that were usually more conservative and things like that. They would send a lady who had that lifestyle to the these areas and then they would package the article as if she was somebody living in Oklahoma or something and live in this, you know, relations in the city lifestyle when that really actually wasn’t the case it was all fabricated so asmall idea. Think about what you want to do before. Think about the lifestyle that you want, not just something that’s being sold to you is basically what I’m trying to say. I don’t know if that makes sense to you, but we’re gonna move on anyway, because I’m going to try to keep these episodes a little more tidy. So, also, to add on to that, I wanted to talk about the original. You guys remember Sex in the City, right? The show? I found this article as well, Candace Bush now, who is now 60 Well, she’s 60 As of July 2019, so she’s 62 Now I’ll guess are 60 Yes. 62 Now, she already be 61. Anyway, she’s she’s older, okay, elderly lady. She was the creator of Sex in the City. And in the article here by The Daily Mail. She states, she admits she regrets choosing a career over having children. And she is now truly alone. So go on in the article, her best selling book and the racy TV series, it inspired taught a generation of women that they could have it all. But Candace Bush now admitted that that lifestyle that she was depicting in those shows, was something she regrets. And now she’s truly alone because she really wanted to have a family and children. So if you don’t know about the show, the TV series Star Sarah Jessica Parker as a writer in New York, who famously chooses her independence over motherhood. That same cosmopolitan awesome life that was marketed to a lot of ladies are in that timeframe and still pervasive today. So she also was a former sex communist columnist, and she’s worth around 18 million so she’s made a lot of money, she has money, but she still doesn’t feel happy and is alone. Okay. So she stated that when I was in my 30s and 40s I didn’t think about it. Then when I got divorced and I was in my 50s I started to see the impact of having children and of truly being alone. I do you see that people with children have an anchor in a way that people who have no kids don’t. So she also went on to say that she didn’t feel like dating after her 2012 divorce from her husband of 10 years. And she moved to Connecticut and after a divorce she admitted she went without relations for five years. And she stated that’s not too long when you get to be my age and she knows women that have went through that longer. Basically what she’s trying to say is

she knew that she let that lifestyle and sex and city lifestyle really, you know, block her ability to have a family so even the person who wrote the relations in the city series that was very popular and everything regrets living that lifestyle so that’s just a bit of food for thought. I think things need to come back and be more moderate in today’s culture because we’ve kind of sold people a dream that yeah, hot girl summer and you know, real at give up, you know what I mean? All that and is that what you really want or that what you’ve been sold? And if that’s what you really want no offense, go ahead and do it. But even the people who have created these, you know, groundbreaking shows and magazines for the time that have provided this type of philosophy and moving forward in the world are stating that Perth Cosmos they did say that they lied. And the Creator Candice Bush now have Sex and the City says she regrets that and she’s made millions of dollars off of so just a little food for thought. Hopefully, if you’re out there and you’re listening to this and you’re thinking about hot girl summer just take that with you if you choose to do so. Do at your own risk, almost say alright. And you got one more topic before we wrap this up and before that Got one more message from the sponsor, and we’ll be back. Okay, so I saw this article on TMZ and I just thought it was hilarious. So this article is from TMZ and it came out on April 10. And the title is botched Botox patient. I’m droopy and irregular but I’ll do it again beats wrinkles, exclamation, exclamation exclamation. So I’m going to link this article in the show notes. So in this article, there’s a picture up front and this lady is doing a permanent eyebrow over Dwayne Johnson rocks eyebrow with her eyes. So um, yes one I looked like her right eye is like half show and the other one is as far as it could go. Some bots procedure with the Botox. Yes, this is scary people. So the article states take notice. So Whitney Blue has recent cosmetic procedure was an eyebrow raising failure. But she’s not scared to try again because she says the pros of usefulness outweigh the cons. Let me stop you there. I don’t know what these ladies are thinking that these these Botox seminars, these Botox parties and everything’s are making you look younger. No, it just makes your face look weird. You just start looking like a doll. You know, like people know that you’re not younger, it’s okay. Just like I would rather recommend you just take care of the skin. Like keep it hydrated. Moisturize things like that. Don’t put as much makeup on it all the time so we can breathe. I think that would do wonders rather than filling your face up with what is Botox? Let me look this up. What is Botox? Is that something I’ve ever said but what is it okay, because it’s some foreign substance. It can’t be good for you long term what is Botox? So, Botox is

Unknown Speaker 22:40
oh,

Montay Lee 22:41
let me get this So Botox, okay, this is according to Medline plus.gov Botha lynnium toxin. So, Botox is a drug made from a toxin produced by the bacterium claustral Clostridium Bo Tilikum. A I’m not a doctor or anything. I don’t know that much about this stuff. I will. I will tell you right off the bat, I don’t know what this stuff is. So bear with me. It’s the same toxin that causes a life threatening type of food poisoning caused botulism. Doctors use it in small doses to treat health problems including temporary smoothing of facial wrinkles and improve your appearance. Oh okay, people are vain are we? Sorry, temporary, smoothing facial wrinkles is not a health problem. That is a cosmetic issue that you have, which I don’t even think is an issue, but that’s a cosmetic thing. It’s not a health issue. So you’re putting a toxin in your body to look like a kin to look like a Barbie doll at age 40 Why? I don’t understand. And then some of these people go way too far they start putting back Botox in their faces and stuff when they’re like 20 something What are you saying like Aren’t you supposed to be youthful? How is your skin not looking okay at 20 something I don’t understand and then you and then you go overboard and overboard and you do it you go you go get Botox like other people go get coffee and before you know it Your face is big as a balloon can can even wear a hat if you wanted to. You know they don’t they don’t they don’t make them your size. What are we doing? Sheesh. So Oh, let’s go back to the article. So the lighting style blogger from Chicago is still dealing with the effects of the botch Botox injections from a month ago which resulted in a droopy left eye and a wide open right paper. So she says on top of everything else, she suffers from dryness in her eye, because it’s open wider to compensate for her left eye. Blurred vision and headaches. It’s around springtime right now and I guess he’s no allergy so of her right, I can’t close Goodness gracious. You won’t be scratching that thing until 2023. I get those seasonal allergies. So I’m like sneezing up a storm constantly rubbing my eyes. She can’t close her eye board. Thank goodness gracious all this foot a couple of wrinkles. I mean, the lady is attractive. I just don’t understand. Like it’s not worth it is basically what I’m trying to say. Take care of the skin. Don’t put toxins in your skin. Let’s say it again. Take care of your skin. Don’t put toxins that can cause poisoning. They said in your scan. You would rather poison you scan. Then have a couple of wrinkles. Lord a mercy. Alright. So it also goes on to say the good news. As you can see her eyes are returning to normal. And she says doctors have assured her this is all just temporary. I wish I had a buzzer. Still it’s a pretty scary experience. She says so it begs the question. Will Whitney get Botox skin? Oh, that wasn’t her saying it. But yeah. Yes. I’m going to answer for Yes. She’s going to get more. She is going to get more. She’s, she’s in the system, man. She’s That’s all she wants. No wrinkles. It’s gonna be weird to be 50 Something with no wrinkles, like, you’re the only person in the world who can just got a smooth face out here at 50 you a whole 50 with a smooth, smooth as a baby’s bottom you’ll face What do you think? Do you think us guys are crazier. So we’ll be looking into like, Oh, what am I looking at? So do not pass go? Do not collect $200

I’m sorry. Taking notes it Okay, guys, I just I just wanted to talk about that because it tickled me. Okay. So something that’s going on that I also wanted to talk about. I just wanted to talk about making sure that you have gratitude for the things that are going on in your life. And especially, I’m speaking to the men right now. If you’re not where you want to be in your life, start focusing on professional development. Becoming a better version of yourself. If you don’t know how to do something seeking advice and guidance. We have resources in front of us nowadays with things like YouTube, the internet, you know, social media, to be able to get content and to learn how to become a better person. I think far too often, as younger people we get caught up in trying to keep up with the Joneses and trying to, you know, do what other people are doing. Oh, especially for the young people. I don’t have enough followers on Instagram or if I’m not making enough money yet, or I don’t know what I want to do it my life or the girl that I likes doesn’t like me. If I could talk to myself when I was 18 I would say keep your head down. Keep fire. Focus on becoming a better version of yourself each and every day and you will be exactly where you want to be. Read more. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. listen with the intent to comprehend and not to just reply right away because Nowadays, I feel like a lot of people’s attention spans are so short for the young people. With social media being so prevalent in today’s day and age, like I’m lucky, I was born in the 80s, late 80s. So I was from an era where we would call people, and we didn’t know who was calling, you know, right off the RIP. And then I saw, you know, Bebo when then eventually MySpace, and then I saw Facebook come to pass. And I’ve went through all of that phase. And now we’re in this hyper social media era now. So I’ve seen all aspects of it. And the younger people, yes, you guys are more socially connected digitally, but are lacking a bit in your interpersonal communication skills. Because he since you’ve been alive, there’s been Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. So I would say focus on professional development, personal development. If you don’t know how to do something, reaching out to somebody that you respect, and seeking advice, and mentorship, it only could help you moving forward, focus on your purpose and your path. And it’ll get you to and above your goals each and every time. And with that being said, that’s been another episode of Karat Juice. Thank you for listening. Please subscribe, share the podcast if you’re enjoying the content. And I will speak to you guys. Oh, and yeah, and I will speak to you guys next week. Alright, peace.

Ep. 8 Rest in Power Dark Man X – RIP DMX

Summary

Condolences to Earl Simmons aka Dark Man X | DMX. Let’s reminisce about the legendary hip-hop star’s impact and how he influenced an entire generation in the ’90s. We will also cover Cosmopolitan magazine and its omissions over the years and how it has affected the culture. Have you ever regretted anything in life? Candace Bushnell does and she told us why. Lastly, what happens when you are botched into an eternal mean mug due to a botox mishap. Sit back, relax, grab a snack, and take a sip. 

RIP DMX (Episode 8) Karat Juice Podcast
Rest in Power Dark Man X (Episode 8) Karat Juice Podcast

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/07/cosmopolitan-false-promise-awesome-life

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/10/botched-botox-victim-whitney-buha-inverview-will-get-injected-again/

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Podcast Transcript

Montay Lee 0:02
Welcome, welcome. Welcome to Episode Eight of Karat Juice. Today is April 12. And yeah, hope everybody’s doing great. It’s been a lot going on this past week. So we’re just gonna get right into it here today after a little bit of housekeeping. So if you haven’t done so already, please subscribe to the podcast. If you enjoy the content. Don’t be afraid to go to Apple podcasts, leave me a review. I enjoy putting this content out there. And if by you by doing that, you really help out the program. And I’d really appreciate it. So the first thing that I wanted to cover I just wanted to say my condolences to DMX the passing of a legend. He passed on April 9. I’ve seen a lot of people reaching out given their condolences. I just want to say condolences to dark man X, Earl Simmons. Thoughts and condolences go out to his family and this time. I know he was a spiritual man. So I hope that he’s in a good place and that he’s at peace right now. I know he had a lot of turbulence in his life. And I want to remember his life and some and some of the impacts that he’s had on me growing up as a youth so if you don’t know who DMX was DMX stands for Darkman X. DMX was an artist that I gravitated towards as a young person because his style his sound was unlike anybody I’ve ever heard. I was drawn to the grit, the brash and the energetic delivery, that he laid down over drums and bass. I remember trying to remember some of his verses on the top bunk bed at my mom’s house when I was 10 years old. I was trying to get the cadence just right as I wrote down each line of the Rough Riders anthem. I remember saying Stop, drop. shut him down. Open up shop. Oh, no. That’s a Rough Riders row. Stop. Drop. shut him down, open up shop. Oh, no, that’s a rough Rados row. If you from the 90s You remember that? I remember that. I think I remember that I was 10. I remember trying to remember the verse just right writing it down doing it over and over again. And no matter how hard I try, I can never get it just like Earl DMX good. But I tried anyway. And I also look back to a time look back at that time, and I realize now that I didn’t have a clue about a lot of that subject matter. I just relished in how it sounded in the spirit and the energy and the soul behind his voice. The track that track was on DMX his 1998 masterpiece of an album, called entitled, it’s dark and Hill is hot. A lot of the tracks in that album had a lot of the duality between heaven and hell good and evil. And I felt like it correlated to a lot of the inner struggles and inner demons that he had going on in his life and throughout his life. As I got older, and I grew up, I didn’t follow him as close. But that music and those memories still sit with me to this day. And I thank him for putting out that energy and putting out that content because it was a big part of my childhood. Also wanted to say fun fact about Earl Simmons. He was born on December 18 1970 in Yonkers, New York. He lived life on the edge and he eventually passed away like I said previously on April 9 something that I didn’t know about DMX that I learned last week.

In the late 1980s, he started performing As a beatboxer, creating beats using only his mouth with a local rapper named ready Ron. He took the name DMX from the Oberheim DMX drum machine, a model popular in the 1980s. He also said he was 14 when ready Ron introduced him to crack cocaine by passing him what he thought was marijuana. He later found out that he laced the blunt with crack DMS DMX told the rapper to lead quality that in an interview last year he asked why would you do that to a child and he became an addicted to it. So he got introduced to introduced to crack cocaine. Because one of his mentors passed a block of marijuana to he had no clue that it was laced with crack cocaine. And eventually, throughout all the successes and his successes in his life, he never overcome overcame that addiction. Because the reason for his death that happened a couple of days ago actually had to do with an overdose that led to the health complications that ultimately ended him passing. So there’s a lot there, there’s a lot of process. What I also want to say is DMX was very talented and charismatic. He was also very troubled and struggled. Those things can both be true, and unfortunately, he never truly conquered his relationship with substances and it eventually was a factor in his passing. I think a thing that people can learn moving forward from this is even though he was in those circles, under those circumstances, he lived his life fully and he made the most of a tough predicament. And he also always made sure to give back to people and thank thank them he moved with humility, and always pray during his concerts and during his in his performances, he seemed to have a connection to a higher power into God. So again, I just want to say recipes Earl Simmons, thank you for the music for your content you will be missed, you will be remembered. And now put a bow on this segment with a quote from none other than Earl Simmons dark man x if you’re influencing people I think you should consider life is too precious to have them chasing the wrong things. Don’t give them jewelry, give them jewels

and we’re gonna segue from there. And before we move forward in the program, we’re going to have a message from our sponsor and we will be right back

alright, so a different tone from where we started the show. Take my SIP here

okay so I don’t know if you guys already know about the magazine Cosmopolitan magazine cosmopolitan link up here started make sure in the 60s and I am talking about this topic due to article that I discover and learned about through content that I’ve been watching. So, cosmos, the article is from The Guardian came out in 2012, but it states cosmopolitan and the false promise of an awesome life. This is by Gail Dines. So the main reason behind the Cosmopolitan magazine it was giving sex tips to snag your man may sell ads but Cosmo’s formula for success is selling young woman desperately short on aspiration. So, in this article it leads with last Sunday’s New York Times Magazine ran a four page story on Cosmopolitan that failed to mention the main point of the magazine. Its content is designed to attract readers in order to sell their eyeballs to the advertisers. So Cosmo as females like to call it was celebrated by writer Edith Zimmerman as a fun magazine packed with handy sex tips relationship and beauty advice and hints on how to make it in the workplace. So that was the main ploy main goal of Cosmopolitan was to advertise to get women to buy certain products, that a certain type of lifestyle you know, really a Sex in the City lifestyle would bring. So pushing all the different types of products that that entails, you know, jewelry, or might make up all different types of products, a hair products, different types of dresses and all that that lifestyle was marketed by advertisers and Cosmo in unison to sell single women more because on average does the statistic show women single women purchase consume at a very high rate way higher than single men or married women that for that? So basically, what happened and what this article is stating, I’ll go further into it so we can get into it so so the writer Eat eat of Zimmerman, she explored the way the magazine strategically manipulated and reshape itself to appeal to readers in more sexually conservative countries. But she gives Cosmos senior editor Jessica Kroll the last word for Croll reading Cosmo, May her want to grow up were pretty dress nice heels, move to the city and have an awesome life. And she also said, I don’t think that’s a bad thing to want, you know. So it was sparking this movement, this, you know, relations in the city lifestyle. And that coincided with the feminist movement, which started in that same time frame in the 60s. So the article goes on to state indeed, feminists also want women to have awesome lives. It’s just that they don’t think pretty dresses and nice heels are the way you get it. So all basically long story short is the cosmopolitan dream the Sex in the City lifestyle, all that that afford it was actually a ploy by Cosmo to market to single women because single women are the still to this day consume more products than any other, you know, demographic. So my take on this Cosmo lie to you.

And this type of role was corporations, marketing to women to keep them single to keep them purchasing and consuming more and more is something that is started to pervade our society. So basically, what I’m trying to say is just open your eyes. Before you purchase something, something asked, Is this going to add any value to my life? And my purchasing this because somebody sold me a dream that I’m going to have an awesome life if I have this amazing bag? Or is it something that I truly want? If you truly want that bag, then go for it. But don’t be coaxed into thinking that you’re going to have an awesome life or a better life because of something that you purchased because that is what’s being sold to you and it’s manipulative. And even the people who created Cosmo admitted that they lie to you guys, they lied to women and they told you they sold you this awesome life and a lot of the articles and the people that they they documented in these articles were actually fake people. They were implants in Midwestern cities and places that were usually more conservative and things like that. They would send a lady who had that lifestyle to the these areas and then they would package the article as if she was somebody living in Oklahoma or something and live in this, you know, relations in the city lifestyle when that really actually wasn’t the case it was all fabricated so asmall idea. Think about what you want to do before. Think about the lifestyle that you want, not just something that’s being sold to you is basically what I’m trying to say. I don’t know if that makes sense to you, but we’re gonna move on anyway, because I’m going to try to keep these episodes a little more tidy. So, also, to add on to that, I wanted to talk about the original. You guys remember Sex in the City, right? The show? I found this article as well, Candace Bush now, who is now 60 Well, she’s 60 As of July 2019, so she’s 62 Now I’ll guess are 60 Yes. 62 Now, she already be 61. Anyway, she’s she’s older, okay, elderly lady. She was the creator of Sex in the City. And in the article here by The Daily Mail. She states, she admits she regrets choosing a career over having children. And she is now truly alone. So go on in the article, her best selling book and the racy TV series, it inspired taught a generation of women that they could have it all. But Candace Bush now admitted that that lifestyle that she was depicting in those shows, was something she regrets. And now she’s truly alone because she really wanted to have a family and children. So if you don’t know about the show, the TV series Star Sarah Jessica Parker as a writer in New York, who famously chooses her independence over motherhood. That same cosmopolitan awesome life that was marketed to a lot of ladies are in that timeframe and still pervasive today. So she also was a former sex communist columnist, and she’s worth around 18 million so she’s made a lot of money, she has money, but she still doesn’t feel happy and is alone. Okay. So she stated that when I was in my 30s and 40s I didn’t think about it. Then when I got divorced and I was in my 50s I started to see the impact of having children and of truly being alone. I do you see that people with children have an anchor in a way that people who have no kids don’t. So she also went on to say that she didn’t feel like dating after her 2012 divorce from her husband of 10 years. And she moved to Connecticut and after a divorce she admitted she went without relations for five years. And she stated that’s not too long when you get to be my age and she knows women that have went through that longer. Basically what she’s trying to say is

she knew that she let that lifestyle and sex and city lifestyle really, you know, block her ability to have a family so even the person who wrote the relations in the city series that was very popular and everything regrets living that lifestyle so that’s just a bit of food for thought. I think things need to come back and be more moderate in today’s culture because we’ve kind of sold people a dream that yeah, hot girl summer and you know, real at give up, you know what I mean? All that and is that what you really want or that what you’ve been sold? And if that’s what you really want no offense, go ahead and do it. But even the people who have created these, you know, groundbreaking shows and magazines for the time that have provided this type of philosophy and moving forward in the world are stating that Perth Cosmos they did say that they lied. And the Creator Candice Bush now have Sex and the City says she regrets that and she’s made millions of dollars off of so just a little food for thought. Hopefully, if you’re out there and you’re listening to this and you’re thinking about hot girl summer just take that with you if you choose to do so. Do at your own risk, almost say alright. And you got one more topic before we wrap this up and before that Got one more message from the sponsor, and we’ll be back. Okay, so I saw this article on TMZ and I just thought it was hilarious. So this article is from TMZ and it came out on April 10. And the title is botched Botox patient. I’m droopy and irregular but I’ll do it again beats wrinkles, exclamation, exclamation exclamation. So I’m going to link this article in the show notes. So in this article, there’s a picture up front and this lady is doing a permanent eyebrow over Dwayne Johnson rocks eyebrow with her eyes. So um, yes one I looked like her right eye is like half show and the other one is as far as it could go. Some bots procedure with the Botox. Yes, this is scary people. So the article states take notice. So Whitney Blue has recent cosmetic procedure was an eyebrow raising failure. But she’s not scared to try again because she says the pros of usefulness outweigh the cons. Let me stop you there. I don’t know what these ladies are thinking that these these Botox seminars, these Botox parties and everything’s are making you look younger. No, it just makes your face look weird. You just start looking like a doll. You know, like people know that you’re not younger, it’s okay. Just like I would rather recommend you just take care of the skin. Like keep it hydrated. Moisturize things like that. Don’t put as much makeup on it all the time so we can breathe. I think that would do wonders rather than filling your face up with what is Botox? Let me look this up. What is Botox? Is that something I’ve ever said but what is it okay, because it’s some foreign substance. It can’t be good for you long term what is Botox? So, Botox is

Unknown Speaker 22:40
oh,

Montay Lee 22:41
let me get this So Botox, okay, this is according to Medline plus.gov Botha lynnium toxin. So, Botox is a drug made from a toxin produced by the bacterium claustral Clostridium Bo Tilikum. A I’m not a doctor or anything. I don’t know that much about this stuff. I will. I will tell you right off the bat, I don’t know what this stuff is. So bear with me. It’s the same toxin that causes a life threatening type of food poisoning caused botulism. Doctors use it in small doses to treat health problems including temporary smoothing of facial wrinkles and improve your appearance. Oh okay, people are vain are we? Sorry, temporary, smoothing facial wrinkles is not a health problem. That is a cosmetic issue that you have, which I don’t even think is an issue, but that’s a cosmetic thing. It’s not a health issue. So you’re putting a toxin in your body to look like a kin to look like a Barbie doll at age 40 Why? I don’t understand. And then some of these people go way too far they start putting back Botox in their faces and stuff when they’re like 20 something What are you saying like Aren’t you supposed to be youthful? How is your skin not looking okay at 20 something I don’t understand and then you and then you go overboard and overboard and you do it you go you go get Botox like other people go get coffee and before you know it Your face is big as a balloon can can even wear a hat if you wanted to. You know they don’t they don’t they don’t make them your size. What are we doing? Sheesh. So Oh, let’s go back to the article. So the lighting style blogger from Chicago is still dealing with the effects of the botch Botox injections from a month ago which resulted in a droopy left eye and a wide open right paper. So she says on top of everything else, she suffers from dryness in her eye, because it’s open wider to compensate for her left eye. Blurred vision and headaches. It’s around springtime right now and I guess he’s no allergy so of her right, I can’t close Goodness gracious. You won’t be scratching that thing until 2023. I get those seasonal allergies. So I’m like sneezing up a storm constantly rubbing my eyes. She can’t close her eye board. Thank goodness gracious all this foot a couple of wrinkles. I mean, the lady is attractive. I just don’t understand. Like it’s not worth it is basically what I’m trying to say. Take care of the skin. Don’t put toxins in your skin. Let’s say it again. Take care of your skin. Don’t put toxins that can cause poisoning. They said in your scan. You would rather poison you scan. Then have a couple of wrinkles. Lord a mercy. Alright. So it also goes on to say the good news. As you can see her eyes are returning to normal. And she says doctors have assured her this is all just temporary. I wish I had a buzzer. Still it’s a pretty scary experience. She says so it begs the question. Will Whitney get Botox skin? Oh, that wasn’t her saying it. But yeah. Yes. I’m going to answer for Yes. She’s going to get more. She is going to get more. She’s, she’s in the system, man. She’s That’s all she wants. No wrinkles. It’s gonna be weird to be 50 Something with no wrinkles, like, you’re the only person in the world who can just got a smooth face out here at 50 you a whole 50 with a smooth, smooth as a baby’s bottom you’ll face What do you think? Do you think us guys are crazier. So we’ll be looking into like, Oh, what am I looking at? So do not pass go? Do not collect $200

I’m sorry. Taking notes it Okay, guys, I just I just wanted to talk about that because it tickled me. Okay. So something that’s going on that I also wanted to talk about. I just wanted to talk about making sure that you have gratitude for the things that are going on in your life. And especially, I’m speaking to the men right now. If you’re not where you want to be in your life, start focusing on professional development. Becoming a better version of yourself. If you don’t know how to do something seeking advice and guidance. We have resources in front of us nowadays with things like YouTube, the internet, you know, social media, to be able to get content and to learn how to become a better person. I think far too often, as younger people we get caught up in trying to keep up with the Joneses and trying to, you know, do what other people are doing. Oh, especially for the young people. I don’t have enough followers on Instagram or if I’m not making enough money yet, or I don’t know what I want to do it my life or the girl that I likes doesn’t like me. If I could talk to myself when I was 18 I would say keep your head down. Keep fire. Focus on becoming a better version of yourself each and every day and you will be exactly where you want to be. Read more. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. listen with the intent to comprehend and not to just reply right away because Nowadays, I feel like a lot of people’s attention spans are so short for the young people. With social media being so prevalent in today’s day and age, like I’m lucky, I was born in the 80s, late 80s. So I was from an era where we would call people, and we didn’t know who was calling, you know, right off the RIP. And then I saw, you know, Bebo when then eventually MySpace, and then I saw Facebook come to pass. And I’ve went through all of that phase. And now we’re in this hyper social media era now. So I’ve seen all aspects of it. And the younger people, yes, you guys are more socially connected digitally, but are lacking a bit in your interpersonal communication skills. Because he since you’ve been alive, there’s been Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. So I would say focus on professional development, personal development. If you don’t know how to do something, reaching out to somebody that you respect, and seeking advice, and mentorship, it only could help you moving forward, focus on your purpose and your path. And it’ll get you to and above your goals each and every time. And with that being said, that’s been another episode of Karat Juice. Thank you for listening. Please subscribe, share the podcast if you’re enjoying the content. And I will speak to you guys. Oh, and yeah, and I will speak to you guys next week. Alright, peace.

A Talk In the Attic hosted by Kirk Ross “MONTAY LEE is a Victor”

Episode Summary

Today’s episode was a blast creating and I hope that you enjoy the collaboration. I had a great time chopping it up with the host of A Talk In The Attic, Kirk Ross. We had an awesome conversation about life, social dynamics with law enforcement and the community & a variety of relevant topics. Next week we will get back to our regularly scheduled programming. In the interim, sit back, relax, and enjoy the conversation. 

“Have a victor mentality rather than a victim mentality”. – Montay Lee 

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MONTAY LEE is a Victor (A Talk in the Attic) Hosted by Kirk Ross

Kirk sits down with his friend Montay Lee to discuss an array of topics ranging from his role as a probation officer to music and ultimately his new podcasting project Karat Juice. Between talk of the San Antonio Spurs and expensive sandals, the duo tries to solve the massive divide facing our nation. Montay’s positive disposition and worldview make it impossible not to like him, but don’t take our word for it. Music includes Thundercat & Ty Dolla$ign, Anderson.Paak, Kid Cudi, Future, and Drake. Theme by HILTON & Lover Boy. 

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Podcast Transcript:

Montay Lee 0:07

This is a talk in the attic. We’re gonna have a conversation today about me.

And I’m looking forward to it. It’s gonna be a good time. I got so much to say it’s just a little time

Music 0:21
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Medic. Every week got something new to say be no filter this shit coming straight from the brain

Montay Lee 0:36
to 42 for you were 240 better than I do. Yeah. So like when I was working all the time I was at

to 232 35 but I don’t mind being 240 I’m 65 to 40. So it’s different than Yeah, yeah, so I’m here with Montay Lee, we already have his stats. Six, five to 40 You’re the probably the most physically imposing character I’ve had on the show so far. Awesome. I’m glad to be there. Tell me Tell me a little bit about yourself. So why why?

Kirk Ross 1:06
I’m not gonna say why. You know, everyone’s got a story. Everyone’s got value. But what are we gonna talk about today? Tell us a little bit about you.

Montay Lee 1:13
Well, me I grew up in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Born and raised I was always somebody that was into sports in a having a good time into, you know, being jovial what people good time, Charlie, but you were serious. Are you serious in school, you know, even as a kid and serious in school? No, I’ve always been somebody that’s like, very observant. And I’ve always had a lot of friends. But I wouldn’t say I was the popular kid in school. I was just a kid that you know, everybody knew, you know, and I was in the chess club.

Kirk Ross 1:54
Oh, yeah. In high school, I love chess loves to play.

Montay Lee 1:59
I don’t have anybody to play with. If I did, I would play. I love to cook. I love food. I love to have a good time. I love to dance when there’s some good music on that’s where we that’s where you and I kind of first started running into each other. We always see each other dancing on the club. Yeah, man, just good times good vibes.

Kirk Ross 2:18
You know, life’s too short to be all serious, for sure. But your job is pretty serious. You could say that.

Montay Lee 2:26
Yeah. So I’m a probation officer. So here in the state of Michigan, Grand Rapids. And the way I got into that I actually went to Piper college. So it’s a small Christian college right here. And yeah, yeah, right here in gr. And I went into the Social Work program, and I ended up doing my internship at the court that I’m working at now. But I got into that, just because growing up where I grew up, you know, inner city, Grand Rapids, I seen a lot of things as a young person, I seen a lot of people who didn’t have that much direction. And when I went into the probation department, and I saw the opportunity to help people who pardon my French who looked like me, I seen a lot of, you know, young black people who just kind of needed some guidance. And I was just like, you know, what, I could be that person that could relate to them, for sure. You know, I think the message would be better heard if it’s some from somebody that looks like you. So from that point on, I felt like it suited me well to be in that role as a probation officer. And you’ve been in that for how long now?

Kirk Ross 3:42
Including your internship, your internship started in 2013. So you’ve been you’ve been at it for 7-8 years?

Montay Lee 3:48
You know, probation supervision, and it’s been a good ride, and I enjoy it everyday, like literally, like people talk about their job and what they do. And I really don’t feel like it’s a job, like, you know, I look forward to going to work I look forward to, you know, being somebody that’s going to hopefully, do something and be that person that actually helps somebody in their life in a tough time, because I see people in their worst, and they’re worse at times. Yeah. So in these cases, I mean, your day to day is talking with your what, what is your caseload like? What is the person that’s part of your caseload called? We call them defendants and defendants? So? So they’re typically it’s typically postconviction? Yeah, usually, or most of the time, it’s post conviction. So I do supervisions a lot. So that’s like your supervisor, somebody who’s already been sentenced by the judge, but I also do presets investigations. Oh, that’s when somebody pleads guilty. The judge orders a psi and then I do an investigation, right before they’re sentenced to get, for instance, if it’s a drunk driving case to get their version of what happened.

If they crashed into somebody, you got to reach out to the victim to see if they were hurt. If they were hurt, did they have to pay anything out of pocket due to those injuries? And if so, you got to get all that information, and put it all together in a report of along with supervising the person during all that in between time to see if they can follow directions if they can, you know, comply with the court’s obligations, right, if this person would be appropriate for whatever their recommendation for sentencing would be, whether that’d be jail, that’d be probation, because people don’t realize that probation is an alternative to jail. Right. So during that whole time, I’m like monitoring. And eventually, I’ll put together a report, a pre sentence report that the judge will review. So the judge can make a more informed right judgment when it comes to sentence. So does that include a sentencing recommendation from you duration? Usually? Yes, usually, it’s a recommendation. And that’s exactly what it is, it’s a recommendation, the judge is going to make the final call, but they’re basically employing us at that time to do that work beforehand. So they’re not making a judgment blindly, right and want to know more about the person before they make that decision that could affect that they don’t have the time to do the interviews themselves. And that’s what we’re there for to investigate. So then you work pretty closely with the prosecution team, then like on a day to day basis, are you separate from them? Or how does that How do they keep those in silos? You know, we’re separate from them. But we do have conversations, you know, we’ll ask them questions about like the charge and write any more information. But it’s completely different sides of the like, once it gets to us, they’ve already pled guilty to the charge or whatever. And then it’s on us to pretty much work for the judge. So they have the information so we can move forward with the case. That’s interesting. So do you ever see

Kirk Ross 6:56
whether anything that you don’t want to talk about? Just say you want to decline? That’s cool, you know?

Montay Lee 7:00
Oh, yeah, of course.

Kirk Ross 7:02
So do you ever see like certain like, not even certain judges, but does it ever happen where something is so lopsided? Like your recommendation is here, and the sentence is over here? And does it ever make you wonder, like, what’s going on there?

Montay Lee 7:13
That does happen from time to time. But it, it rarely does. Because usually, during the pre sentence investigation process, when I’m talking to the person, when a probation officer is talking to the person, we also do a criminal background check, to check their entire criminal history, if it’s somebody that has no prior offenses, no prior convictions, they’re going to get a lighter sentence, more likely than not no jail, probation, right. But if a person has four or five felonies, multiple violent convictions, multiple drunk driving convictions, that person is more likely not going to get, you know, jail, or something that’s more stiff because of that history. So it’s not like it’s not cut and dry. It’s not cookie cutter. It’s, it’s based on all of those different factors. And that kind of allows you to have a template like a baseline to go from like, Hey, this is consistent with somebody that has this, this and this. So I try to be fair with my recommendations in that. Yeah, in that way, taking all of those things into account. Also, does the person have any remorse, anything what they’ve done, I take that into effect, that’s part and part of the interviewing process, exactly. Seeing if the person is actually taking ownership for what they did, of course, or are not going to continue that behavior and are willing to go to counseling, treatment, things like that, rather than saying, just blowing, blowing it off, you blow it off, that’s going to be taken into account. Yeah, that means you haven’t really learned exactly.

Kirk Ross 8:44
So there is some discretion on your side of it, though, too.

Montay Lee 8:46
Oh, yeah, it’s a lot of discretion. One thing I like a lot about the role, we get discretion, we have great supervisors who allow us to x, you know, I have great supervisors will last me to ask them questions, if it’s something that I’m not sure about. But for the most part, I’m working, you know, they trust me to do what I’m going to do. And I take all of those things into account, I try to be as fair as possible. Of course, like, if I see anybody that I’ve had, or something like that, on probation, or whatever, I hope that when they see me or somebody asks how I treated them, I treated them fairly and with respect, that’s what I’ve always tried to do.

Kirk Ross 9:24
And you probably get good results from your, from your defendants for that reason.

Montay Lee 9:27
For the most part, yeah, I feel like with anybody in any, you know, walk a life or whatever. If you treat somebody with respect, it’s usually mirrored and you get that same thing back. And if I don’t like if I’m talking to somebody, and then I’m talking to them just normally in a respectful tone and stuff, and then they lash back at me. It’s not my first thing to go back at them with that because usually that just means that there’s something else of course, you’re lieing there, that’s usually and it’s just like, it’s my job to be a like, I felt like a lot of my job, that’s what I’m going to deescalate. And I’m trying to get to what’s going on underneath that anger, that fear and stuff like that. I do have a social work, man, that’s like a social worker. Yeah, that’s what a lot of it is. So that’s why I like the role of probation officer. Because, yes, I do investigations. But I’m also a case manager, right? Because I supervise people too. So it’s like the best of both worlds. And that background of social work helps a lot. Because you, you deal with a lot of people who, you get lied to a lot, you know, you learn how to read those things. But when you really peel back the onion, and the layers behind all this, it’s it’s a lot of hurt. Of course, we’ve been in really, you know, difficult, you know, situations in their life. So I’m trying to guide them through that too.

Like, yeah, man. That’s, that’s really cool. That’s, that’s genuine. Jessica and I first met you a couple years back, and we were always so we had a similar conversation about why you’re in. So that was always something that was always one of the reasons why I want to get on here. Because I think in light of all the police the conversation about policing in America and the racial part, like who better to talk to you than someone that’s really not a cop?

Yeah.

Kirk Ross 11:06
But you’re working with them? Yeah. You’re black, obviously. But you’re also not, you’re also you have a compassion for the defendants as well.

Montay Lee 11:15
Yeah. Right.

Kirk Ross 11:15
Because you really are the middle person? And do you? I mean, what is your reaction to all of that stuff that’s going you don’t I mean, like, how do you, you are in a unique position, right, or a unique perspective for it?

Montay Lee 11:27
Yeah, it’s a unique perspective, because I’m not a cop. But I read a lot of the reports and things and I can see, I see both sides of it, or I see a lot of the things that have gone on, you know, it’s interesting to have that perspective. Okay.

And be my, me myself, I’ve had situations when I was in college, I had a situation where I was driving to a buddy’s house. After going to the mall. I went to the mall, and I got like a Surf City squeeze like a smoothie. It’s like, it’s like the most innocent shit ever. Yeah, I got a smoothie or whatever. And then I was driving to my buddies to go like, play video games in Holland or whatever. And I got stopped by a cop, on my way, you know, to his house, and the cop stopped me.

Kirk Ross 12:14
For what reason?

Montay Lee 12:15
I don’t know, it was daylight. And then he said it was for a tail light that had a plate that was no, the the license plate said that the light was out, but it was daylight. Stop me, you know, the whole shindig or whatever said he smelled something on my breath. And I was like, Surf City squeeze. I was like, what? And then and then he breathalyze me, actually breathalyze me it was all zeros. Yeah, because it was just a smoothie. But like, that’s one of the situations that I had in my life where I’ve experienced that as a black person. And I can understand and relate to somebody who gets stopped, you know?

Kirk Ross 12:54
More often. Yeah, somebody that doesn’t look like me. It’s unconstitutional to pull someone over for no reason and give them a breathalyzer. Yeah, that’s the reality of it. Right?

Montay Lee 13:02
We also got to realize and notice that people do have preconceived notions, preconceived biases.

Kirk Ross 13:10
It’s just, it’s a natural thing.

Montay Lee 13:12
Yeah, you know, but I think when we can get past the white versus black thing, the you versus them thing, and we can get more to just understanding where the other person is that a lot of the cops who are out there and protecting and serving doing the right thing, a lot of them just can’t relate to somebody that looks like me, because you live in a neighborhood where you, you’ve never really been around people who look at me, like me, so how can you, you know, feel as comfortable? Yeah, I believe that there’s some growth there that can happen on both sides to help quell some of those tensions. And anytime I walk past the officer, I always say, Thank you for your service. Yeah, no matter what, because that’s like, that’s not an easy job. No, a lot of the times if you’re a cop, you’re going into a situation on somebody’s worst day

with mental illness and substance abuse and all that, you know, calls about somebody’s got a gun here or there right after a while. It all it takes your toll on you, you would think and I bet you most of the cops that are riding around they are suffer from some kind of like PTSD for sure. And I think there’s been studies have shown that I don’t have the source right off the bat. Right. But there is something going on in regards to that. That

I think needs to be delved into more but overall, I’m kind of going on a tangent.

Kirk Ross 14:37
No, yeah, no, I like I like what you’re saying.

Montay Lee 14:39
Overall. I do believe that there has been some progress made just by the intense media coverage that has gone through with the whole black lives matter. Yeah. Lifestyle. Yes. I’m not gonna say movement.

Kirk Ross 14:56
right.

Montay Lee 14:57
I’m not gonna say movement because that’s something that comes and go. I can’t Change, I can’t stop being black.

Kirk Ross 15:01
right.

Montay Lee 15:02
I’m going to be black when I leave here, it’s always going to be there. And I feel like if we can get to a place as a culture of empathy, of realizing, this is my plight, this is what I deal with, as a black man move into the world.

Just because as a black person, I want to see, equal treatment doesn’t mean it diminishes any other person’s treatment. Because at the end of the day, if you’re going to treat

a fellow man with dignity and respect, it’s only going to help everybody at the end of the day, right, you know, without getting too political, like that’s kind of my stance on the whole thing. It’s pretty, there’s empathy on both sides for the the situations that people deal with, because I couldn’t imagine being a white cop, going and policing a black neighborhood. Everybody’s fearful, fearful of you, for the most part scared because they’ve experienced some kind of, you know, some bad thing or something. Bad Apple, not the majority, right? Literally, like 96% 97% of the cops who are out there, I believe, are doing the right thing doing their job, but a couple of bad actors can really, you know, taint your image, right. So I don’t want to feel like I’m bashing the police.

Kirk Ross 16:18
No, of course, of course.

Montay Lee 16:19
Yeah. But I think if the community overall realizes that is a tough job, and commend officers who are doing the right thing, you know, if one of their fellow officers is treating somebody poorly, actually stepping in and not getting condemned, because I’ve seen these stories and heard these stories about there was a cop who she did that she was in New York, I don’t got her name right now. But she stepped in and helped.

Like she, like somebody was getting abused, like a black person was getting abused by one of her.

Oh, by another cop?

Kirk Ross 16:53
Her white partner who had multiple complaints.

Yeah, he’s a bad one that..

Montay Lee 16:58
Yeah, of like, you know, roughing people up, she stepped in. And then she got reprimanded for it. And after litigation and stuff going through with the union and everything, the police unions are so powerful, she ended up

getting fired. And it was like, a couple of years before she got her pension. And like, they get their pension at like 25. She was at like, 21. And she still hasn’t got her pension to this day. I don’t have the name right off the bat. But things like that, like, That can’t happen. No, right. Yeah. Somebody does like the right thing. And stance. Yeah, in line. And, you know, right. Next, somebody who is abusing somebody, we got to protect the officers who are doing the right things.

Kirk Ross 17:38
I mean, I feel like I feel like as someone that has really no real standing here as a non competent white guy, you know, like, I feel like on the on the cop side, there’s kind of this code of silence, right?

Montay Lee 17:48
And a lot of cases, not cop bashing. I agree that most people are good. Now in some of those big cities, there have been wild corruption going on in times. But yeah, I don’t feel like that’s the case here. Doesn’t feel like that. I’ve had all great interactions for the most, including professionally, right? Oh, yeah, definitely. And so but I feel like there’s still that code of silence kind of like there is a lot of you don’t tell why, because someone does, and you don’t get your pension now. So you kind of dependent on the other side, on the community side. There’s also kind of this staunch position of anti all cops, you know, in some in some particular cases. And, again, that’s not black and white. I don’t mean racially, but a black and white, binary way to look at things. You can’t always be silent. You can’t always be against the cops, you have to we have to look at these things

Unknown Speaker 18:29
on a case by case basis. But if it always comes down to empathy and respect, there’s no way we can lose in that with that recipe. Right? Yeah, absolutely. Like, and I feel like, we’ve gotten away from that. As I say, we like the culture like people

Unknown Speaker 18:46
have just, I’m right.

Unknown Speaker 18:50
You’re wrong. Left, right. No, you know, I’m saying, yeah, there’s no real conversation. And eventually, it gets to a point where it’s just like, the truth is not anywhere, you know, to be found, you know, empathy, and the gray area is nowhere to be found. And I always harken back to.

Unknown Speaker 19:09
So many times when you have conversations, or what I’ve seen I don’t even get involved in a lot of the political stuff that happens on like Facebook and all that. Yeah. What you see is people are not listening. People are they see a comment or they see somebody’s viewpoint and they’re automatically got their response. They’re not listening to comprehend, right? They’re not digesting the information. If it doesn’t fit, what their viewpoint is on both sides. It’s automatically this is our response to that, or have you been trying to, I feel like you can have a way better conversation with somebody by having a conversation with somebody who doesn’t agree with exactly what you mean. Like doesn’t have the same viewpoints as you I don’t want to talk to people who have the same viewpoints as me all the time. What’s the fun in that? You guys want to be alone? I want to learn if somebody has a different viewpoint than me. I like to ask, Why do you think that

Unknown Speaker 20:00
that way. Yeah, not even not in a challenging way. So you want to know, I want to know like, oh, because I’ve never experienced that. Okay, so let’s delve deeper into that. I feel like if you listen to comprehend, rather than just quick witted, what’s your response? We can go so much for Yeah. Doing? Yeah, of course. It’s like, you see that all over the place, even like in day to day conversations, actual physical conversations. It’s it started on Facebook, right? Because when you’re behind the anonymity of the internet, even though your name is out there on it, a lot of times, you’re still protected by all the space and like, you’re not gonna see the person’s face that you’re hurting. Yeah. You know, you know, it’s hard to hurt someone’s feelings to their face. Yeah, a lot harder than on a keyboard. And it’s a lot of people that got the Meek Mill Twitter fingers, they really spicy and stuff when it’s, you know, they behind the egg on Twitter. But if it’s you half of those things that you’re saying you would never say that to somebody in real life? Of course not. But now I feel like that is spilling over. We’re now even there’s less civility and face to face interactions. I mean, this political stuff is a great example of families breaking up over it. You know, like people not talking in their families anymore and stuff over politics, which is weird. It’s crazy. Because when I think about it, too, like this, how often has real politics affected your life, real politics that affect your life? are the ones down at city hall that you’re involved with? That’s what matters not? who’s in the White House doesn’t really affect you? Yeah, vocal elections. Right. But that all gets mixed up. Because for some reason, for some reason, they’re just not passing the $1.9 trillion stimulus. They’ve been talking about that for like a year mots. Yeah. Just in in Justin’s election just passed. Right. They have control of the Senate, the Democrats have control of the Senate. Right. And it still took months. And now the output is like, what most of these like countries around the world get per month, anyway, automatically. You know what? I’m not saying that should be giving away money. I’m not a big fan of that either. Yeah, but but it’s just like, all this time to finally get 1400 bucks for some people. Yeah. What I think is just like,

Unknown Speaker 21:59
what are what are they really doing there? And those positions, they give me a lot of money to like, just go through a lot of jargon and all types of different systems and processes and stuff. And we can get to a way to cut through all of that malarkey, and say, Hey, let’s come to the table. What do we need to get done to get, you know, like, we’re not going to agree to everything, but we need to fix this economy. What is the best way to do this? Does that need to take two months to agree to something? That’s what’s crazy? Don’t you feel like it’s a matter of kind of not? It’s hard to pick steps of action plan or whatever, if we don’t have a common understanding of where we want to go? You know, like, obviously, it would help tender to believe where we’re at or to understand that where we’re at together, those are two separate right now. Yeah, like me. And you think one thing? I think one thing you think one thing, the left thinks one side, the right things one side, we can’t even agree on where we’re at. And how are we going to move forward if we don’t agree where we’re at? And then of course, the bigger picture is, where are we gonna end up at? And like, if we can agree on those, how are we going to agree on an action plan? Yeah, I agree. I think it’s a multifaceted. Yeah, discussion and topic that has so many different layers where we could cover it in the ad, it’s no way we can, you know,

Unknown Speaker 23:19
Cocker that in the attic, we would need, they would need textbooks and a staff of at least 100 researchers and, and that’s just insane. Like, when I was younger, I always would just think about things like,

Unknown Speaker 23:34
always thought, I don’t know if you ever had this thought,

Unknown Speaker 23:37
like, why is there money? I remember I asked my mom one time, like, well, I feel like that’s like causing all the problems. Why do we even have money? You know what I mean? And I feel like sometimes, I harken back and feel myself being that kid again and be like, Why do we have senators? They don’t get anything done. Right. You know what I mean, right? At the end of the day, like there’s something with that the stalemate and all of the different things that came over, like let’s reform that in a way where we can actually have actual legislation. I don’t care what what passes. Let’s just get more things passed. It’s got to be moving. Yeah, exactly. It’s all these it’s all these stall tactics and filibusters and all this like procedural nonsense. I stopped I stopped watching the news recently, man after the political cycle, I just couldn’t take it anymore. But you I feel like you have the makeup. You have the background now to with being a probation officer, you should be a local politician honestly know that you’d want to be but you would be good man. You’d be good for the same reason. You’d be a good probation officer.

Kirk Ross 24:34
Man, you’d be a good mouthpiece for for an underrepresented community.

Montay Lee 24:39
That might be true in so many ways, but I feel like

being a politician in a way that I would want to be what probably lead to like canceled culture, some type of way because I feel like once you get into that realm, people start throwing money at you in all different types of ways and then you can

Gotta eventually like you, you say, This is what I want to do, you know, I want to like raise minimum wage or whatever, whatever your stances, whatever your stances, you know. And eventually, people chip away at it in so many ways and say, well, like No, instead of having to be 15, why don’t we go to 14? And then I’ll let you do this, though. And then I’ll get you the sponsors. And before you know what you’re back now until 11. Yeah. So it’s just like, it’s a lot of like political maneuvering. I don’t know how well I would do with that. You’d be driving a Rolls Royce. Like, I just wanted to raise the minimum wage. You know what I mean? And now, you know, I’m

promoting Super PACs. All it is. And you know what I mean, the minimum wage is 50 cent more than what you guys originally had that we voted Montay Lee, and he actually dropped minimum wage, and now he’s driving a Rolls Royce. Exactly. And now I’m speaking from a teleprompter during all of my, you know, like, worse than that.

Kirk Ross 25:54
Well, I already know speeches, I already know that you’re not going to fall victim to that because you look, let’s talk about your creative endeavors. And so this is more than creative endeavors. You’re, you’re super into fitness. We’ll talk about that.

You’re also you’ve started your own podcast called Karat Juice that spelled like diamond karat.

Montay Lee 26:11
Yeah.

Kirk Ross 26:12
I like that. Absolutely. I like that. It’s a good logo. It’s cool. We’ll talk about that. But we in the capacity of you becoming a politician and end up being a sellout or whatever, whatever could happen. Yeah, you haven’t been a sellout with your fitness stuff. Right? We talked about this before we started recording. So how do you manage? You have a bit, tell a little bit about your fitness part of it. And like, the videos that you created and all that. And then let’s talk about how is that something that you want to monetize? What is the passion behind that? What is all that?

Montay Lee 26:40
Yeah, so about, I want to say about two years ago, I, I had always been into fitness for the most part, like, well, you played basketball in college. Yep, play basketball in college. At caper, I was an undersized, big man 6565 and a half with shoes on. And I played sinner. You know, and I was undersized. But I worked hard. And I played hard. And I always had been into, you know, that competitive nature of things. So I took that mentality that I had playing college basketball, and I just

threw that into my fitness because for me, the fitness side of things, it’s not a physical thing for me, it’s more a mental thing for me it, it literally is my therapy. When I go in there, I just feel, you know, a sense of it is it’s like meditation for me. So I did that for years after graduating college and graduating from college in 2014. And then two years ago, I decided to start my lifestyle brand, Natty fits. And that stands for natural fitness. And pretty much my whole goal with that it wasn’t to monetize it or make any money. I just wanted to show people what I was doing what I have been doing for years and how it’s affected my life and helped me to be, you know, the person that I am now. Yeah, and it’s really tied to an around just taking care of yourself each and every day and not cutting any corners with anything. Like natural fitness means like I cook my own meals, for the most part I don’t take any supplements never have because first of all, when I first started, I didn’t money wasn’t growing on trees. And those supplements are expensive, right? Yeah, you had no choice you were natural by by requirement at the beginning, man, when I first like got into the weightlifting stuff, I never liked the way people looked when they took that stuff, they look kind of puffy, like their muscles by like, you wouldn’t see any veins, they would just kind of look like Johnny Bravo. You know, no veins on their arms, but they’re super big. And I was like, I don’t want to look like that. And I think something it’s something to do with the either the creatine or the whey protein, it’s like adds water, like a water layer in between your muscle and your skin. So I never wanted to get to that. And first of all, I couldn’t afford it went into GNC.

And some of the stuff that the guy was trying to push me they always try to push you like the really good stuff. Is this a mineral most expensive shit at the time? That and all that. And then it was like $90 for like a Yeah, a thing. And I was just like, No, I’m just going to eat some chicken and rice and broccoli. So that’s what I kept doing. And what I realized is most of that stuff is bullshit, dude. Like, yeah, it might help like somebody if you’re trying to be a bodybuilder, but who I wasn’t trying to be a bodybuilder. I feel like for most people, including for myself, it’s like a device to it’s like an investment in yourself. So then you’re like, Well, I didn’t buy those pills. I didn’t think I better start working out now. It’s almost like that. But other than once that value is gone. It’s like, I honestly feel like it’s placebo. It is dude that night, they put a little nitrous shit in there so that you get that nitric oxide oxide sheet so you get like that flush feeling. You know, I’m talking about the but a lot of them have caffeine in it. So yeah, literally, you could just take some take some coffee, so that’s what I would do. I would literally drink some some

coffee before working out. And then I got into posting all of these videos on Instagram that showing like, how to do the workouts because so many people do things the wrong way. Yeah, just from misinformation out there, or the best thing ever, all the freakin ego lifters that go to the gym and they haven’t been there in like you know a couple of months but they’re trying to deadlift 250 like a jackass, come on yeah, you don’t do that like the main thing that I always stress like through all of my content is just be realistic about where you are, start at a very comfortable weight so that you can actually manage and build yourself up. So the process of the natty fits whole thing it wasn’t about trying to bulk up and get super huge, fast, it’s sustainable. It’s something that you can consistently do. And if you consistently do it every week workout five days a week, you would get natural lean muscle that you would keep literally during the pandemic I didn’t work out for like

when the gyms were closed here in Michigan. I didn’t work out for like six months. That’s how you had to be pulling your hair out. Yeah, well, you actually did pull your hair out. Yeah, it was crazy. I cut it

busted off myself. It was crazy. Because I didn’t have that mental outlet to do what I wanted to do. But I didn’t lose that much muscle mass at all. Yeah, cuz it’s like true real muscle is real, real muscle. That’s one thing I noticed people will look at me and be like, you’re not working out. It’s like no, yeah, I got a little bit of a belly because I was eating some snacks. You know, it hasn’t. But that’s one thing I really believed in. I believe that. It’s something about doing it naturally. And getting it gradually that you will keep it and you like like yeah, earn this. I didn’t just like buy it. Yeah, you know, off the shelf. Because who wants to get that big? Really? Like you can’t even wipe your butt. Man. I know you’re too big like, I think like my goal for the whole working out thing and stuff is to get like tight in in the NFL. Like

Best I Can LeBron James tight. Such a low standard, but he’s not jet like. Exactly. Bron James is tall too, though. But LeBron James is. Was he to 16 move. He’s six, nine. He’s 266. Nine to 66. Five to 40 not the same as him anyway. I want to be able to move and be functional. You know, cuz everyone’s while you still got to be able to dance if you go out.

Kirk Ross 32:20
Come on. Yeah.

Montay Lee 32:22
Like, too big. That wasn’t my goal. Not bodybuilding. That’s why I quit working out guys. I was just getting too strong.

So yeah, that’s kind of like how I got into the Natty Ftz thing.

Kirk Ross 32:31
And I really enjoyed I liked your content on that. Yeah, it was fun.

Montay Lee 32:35
Yeah, it was a good time. I didn’t take myself too seriously with it. And I got a lot of people reaching out with questions and stuff like that. So I was able to like scratch that itch of just helping people feel better, because it’s my mental, you know, therapy, and you’re in because of your interest in that you’re an expert on it. And you’re also an influential guy just because of your positivity and the way you handle yourself. And so we want to see stuff from you, you know, like, people look to you, even friends and people that don’t know, you probably look to you more often than other friends because of the type of guy you are. Yeah, so why not share? I get that a lot. And I think it’s something about seeing it from somebody that you know, that’s in the community and saying like, Oh, I can see that he’s doing it rather than some like, you know, person that’s got all the money in the world to get like all these crazy trainers. And yeah, that like newsflash people, the people that you see on Instagram, for the most part, they got like the 10, pack abs and everything like that they had those before the fat burning protein.

So you know, it’s not like they just got a little chubby for the before picture. And anybody that’s trying to tell you that you can get like a spot, a spot like Oh, remove your love handles or remove your abs is one, belly flat. Impossible. You cannot remove belly fat from spot training or a certain type of supplement, you have to get rid of it through your diet, caloric deficit, and working out moving your butt. That’s the only way you can get rid of it. Anybody else that’s saying anything else is not? Well, it’s also nice too, because like for instance, you came here tonight and I asked you we want you got pizza. You know, you didn’t like crushed about the pizza. But like that’s kind of helpful too to say like, okay, it’s not like you’re some maniacal guy only eating broccoli nine, nine times a week and like, that’s all you’re gonna have and like, do you know, what is the point in working all the time if you can’t eat good? Work? Oh, it’s

good. Like, okay, I’ll work out a lot so I can eat. I’m a foodie. I love food. Talk about that. Dude. I love food. I love to cook I was the weird kid growing up who? I used to watch the Food Network for fun. Have you ever been to flavortown I haven’t.

Kirk Ross 34:42
what’s that guy’s gone diamonds and drive

Montay Lee 34:48
to flavor it. But I love that type of food though. Oh yeah. diners and stuff and like that really good diner that’s here. In gr Schnitz Deli.

Kirk Ross 34:58
Oh yeah, the one on Fulton right here. Yeah.

Montay Lee 35:00
The Big John, one of the best sandwiches I’ve never gotten it. What is it? It’s like a Philly cheesesteak, but it has like carmelized onions in it with the provolone with bacon, kind of like the old Big John steak and onion. If you ever had one of those, that was an old restaurant, we had one out in the Bay City secondaria dude, but it’s like two mils. For me, it’s one. But for the normal human being, it’s two mil for someone that’s not going to go work out for two hours after they eat it. It’s one two meals. Absolutely. What was that? Oh, food food. So I used to watch like emerald Lagasse on Food Network. I really got into just like watching recipes and stuff. So growing up, I started cooking meals for our household, because I used to do it so good. Like when I was like 11, or 12, and it’s just what is the dynamic your household? How many siblings parents would have the situation? Well, my mom and my dad got divorced when I was like two or three, but they’re both my life. Yeah, let’s go. Yeah, so my life gray. He got remarried. But I have two brothers, three sisters. And where are you in there? In the middle in the middle? I’m in the middle. So I started cooking for everybody. Everybody started loving the food AM. I used to love I love to make tacos. American tacos for the most part at that point, which is like the ground beef. Yeah. yellow corn shelter tea. You know, lettuce, green, red, yellow peppers, onions, sour cream, I would make my own gwoc. And then if you haven’t had it, have your nachos with Doritos. Oh, wow. So you take the spicy Nacho Doritos, or the nacho cheese Doritos that you put your ground beef and Oh, with the ground beef too.

You got to strain your ground beef people public service announcement. If anybody cooks you some tacos and then they cook up the beef.

Kirk Ross 36:52
Right?

Montay Lee 36:53
And you know how it has the different lean properties like where it’s like 70% or 30%? Yes, sometimes people will cook that forget to strain it and then put in the sauce or whatever and then you’re eating. You’re eating a grease taco. Yes. That’s the reason why strain it after you brown it. Okay, public service. Finally. Yes, you have to do that. Real time you do that. You put your meat down there you put all your condiments everything sharp cheddar cheese, drizzle it over, toasted, toasted, do not put it into microwave, toast it in the oven. So then your chips are still crispy. montae special for the nationals you put on bright you put it up on low broil or what do you do you put it I just put on like 353 75 for a couple of minutes. Cover it with oil? No. Okay, folks, we’re gonna take a break right now. But I just want to remind you that it’s only in the attic, and only on this podcast to talk in the attic where someone could be preaching fitness and then there’s moments later talking about a Dorito taco or dreena with nachos. Rito nachos. Maybe so don’t say that. Don’t say that. There’s no variation here. We’ll be right back things never be the same never be the same again.

Kirk Ross 38:22
Alright, here we are. We’re back.

Montay Lee 38:24
That was Thundercat?

Yes, that was Thundercat dude. Yes. What so what kind of music do you listen to in general?

I’m, I’m a very soulful, chill guy, your cat? Dragonball durag? One of my favorite songs. What’s the one that we just listened to? What’s the second one that you told me? Oh, fair chance. Yeah, fair chance. Ty Dolla Sign. Tight. Album. It’s good. That’s my guy. I haven’t heard that. No. Is that the featuring one? Well, I don’t know. I saw my Tiny Desk concert. He was playing new songs. Yeah. Did you see that? That? That? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I like people like that Ty Dolla Sign.

I like… I listen to rap, right. I listen to r&b but I really liked the artists that are in between they’re like to me.

Kirk Ross 39:10
Yes, I was gonna say him.

It’s on so I’m headed to win Wow. Just to be off of rivets in with forgiveness asleep she she go vegan on a weak his hand. I don’t think I know. All the different girls that he know I love.

Montay Lee 39:29
You got to check out he’s one of my faves. Dude. I like the artists artists. Like Ty Dolla Sign is not a singer. He’s not a rapper. He’s in between. St. Khadi. Yes. The new one. I haven’t listened to that much though. Do you like it? Generally, the only one I’ve really listened to so far was the one with Eminem where it’s like the Moon Man and Slim Shady. It’s pretty cool. Pretty cool. I’m not saying like a top off of the brand or the Wayne weight. Lift off cancer the —- growth but again, moving

Unknown Speaker 40:00
Man on the Moon like the first man on the moon, pursuit of happiness, oh my god, I have so many memories of dancing with you. They played that they played pursuit of happiness at Eve every Friday night like without fail. I remember dancing. There was like that EDM version of it to really like Wahby like, anytime you hear that, like people talk about music, and how it like makes you like traveled in time and like the nostalgia and stuff. Anytime I hear that it just like takes me back I get like Foosball when you picture doing like and drills in the gym question blow

Unknown Speaker 40:33
up taking

Unknown Speaker 40:36
2am summer night I don’t care hand on the wheel driving drunk I’m doing my thing

Unknown Speaker 40:44
my life cannot dream. No, it just makes me feel good. It’s just a happy like anytime somebody leaves that public gathering everybody just looks around everybody thought bossa nova dot and everybody just gets happy. Very happy. That’s type of music

Kirk Ross 41:08
I like that. Future. Yeah. Is though. I love his sandals. Sandals, man.

Montay Lee 41:14
So let’s see. Okay, so Karat Juice, your first episode, the first if you gave a little intro on yourself, which was great, folks, go to the show notes, you’ll see links to, to Montay his podcast called Karat Juice. I don’t know when by the time this drops, you’ll have five or six episodes out probably by then. But whatever the case, check them out. But the first on your first episode you talked about future so talking about this story? I didn’t know about it. Oh, yeah. So as I usually do, I was perusing you know, the news. You know, I gotta check my I have a guilty pleasure. I like to see what’s going on in the world. And I scrolled past an article that talked about future Hendricks talking about future, buying some sandals. And the caveat to this is these sandals are made of their Birkenstocks. Right. Everybody’s seen girls walk around with Birkenstocks, right, the 120 bucks out the door. I really like I really like when a girl wears some Birkenstocks, though, especially if she’s curvy with some legs. It’s something about it. I really like it. But these weren’t those.

Unknown Speaker 42:20
He bought some Birkenstocks that were made out of actual Birkin bags, which is B E, RK, isn’t it? Or is it b i R? Well isn’t so there’s whatever it’s the opposite isn’t an opposite. It’s not the same spelling is Birkenstock, obviously, don’t know about it, because I never been anywhere near the store. Right? It’s not it’s not my life. cross chain our way to the flow. What do you explain the construction of it obviously became obvious where the price came from like that. So they’re $48,000. Yes. Right. And that’s when they’re like, that’s the mid tier. They got ones that are higher than that. But then when you explain the construction of it, you said it’s a standard basically a standard Birkenstock foot. Yeah. So and then then what do they what do they like literally cut out the molding of where his you know, feet will like sit with actual Birkin bag material that was already created into a Birkin bag, though. Yeah, they constructed it. Yeah. That’s so silly. Like they could have just gotten the material from the jump. Like the only reason that expensive is because we’re paying people to like deconstruct an old an expensive bag, but my only thing is like, what is it about the Birkin because the leather is not like, it’s not like a mate. Okay, it’s a leather might be amazing. But it’s no leather still. Even if it is quality leather. I’m pretty sure the same leather that’s in your couch or something. It’s still leather. Right? What how can you make something that expensive? So I went off on a tangent about that because it’s the consumerism in the world today is just getting crazy because you’re not they’re not paying for that material are not that it’s the name. Yeah, it’s because other people will buy it and respect the brand status thing that it gets to go. There. I just $48,000 I never paid over two grand for a pair sandals. Tops. I never paid over $200 for anything. No, no, I know. I was totally joking about two great sandals. They’re not even full of shoes. No, I’m not paying 40 grand anything less than a full wing tip. I do like I do like a good boot. I like a good like chuckle boot or something like that. But like check it out. I think my cut off is $300 Yeah, it’s really silly. And I only get stuff on sale. I only buy like never buy something full price. Now this is more this is a little bit trickier for males like you and I are but I’m a big I like thrift shopping a lot. And there’s a lot of good thrift shops around Grand Rapids I don’t know if it’s because I don’t know they’re just and

Unknown Speaker 44:51
but men stuff at thrift shop tends to be like really worn out. Like guys worship forever. They don’t like girls. You can get stuff in the women’s section. It has like tags

Unknown Speaker 45:00
Got it still? Isn’t that the purpose of the thrift shop though? Don’t you want the worn in? In some cases? Yeah, but Jessica will find like, Dude, we find like 800 pairs, we find like $800 pairs of jeans sometimes. Like at random thrift shops for three bucks. Wow. And so like she’ll sell them on Poshmark or whatever, you know, which is kind of like an eBay for clothes or whatever. Wow. But when guys stuff you rarely find anything like that. I won’t be able to find anything that fits me. It’s my shoe sizes. 13 Me too. How could you fit? I know what don’t go to the shopping is we’re gonna be competing for all the 13 don’t you’re gonna hate it? Definitely. No, I don’t.

Unknown Speaker 45:36
I can tell you last time I bought clothes, man. I’m bought clothes so long. That’s a problem of staying kind of consistently fit like you have you don’t really change size. I have to like constantly get like smaller clothes and bigger clothes. And then well, you just always the same. Well, I worked at Banana Republic. When I first started working at the court and I did it part time just to get close. And because you get 50% ALL Yeah, that’s a good part of working there. So the whole time I was working there for like a year or whatever. I didn’t make any money because all my money went to the clothes, but you’re still rocking that wardrobe. Yep. Still because this stuff lasts forever. Yeah, that’s one of the they have like for guys that are 6364 and like they have a good length of arms and shit. Like it actually fits me.

Unknown Speaker 46:16
I know the exact size so like, I’m the kind of person I do like quality things. But once I get something that’s quality, I’m gonna I’m gonna be one of those people that’s gonna wear it out. Yeah. How long would you have to wear future sandals? Birkin sandals? Before you think that you get your value out of them you have to wear them for every every day forever.

Unknown Speaker 46:37
I walk to California and those things

Unknown Speaker 46:41
$48,000 Dude that is a BMW truck I could never I could never put them on. Even if somebody gifted it to me I can never been more No, I’m not putting my stinky foot in that thing.

Unknown Speaker 46:52
How much what kind of shoes it you know kind of shoes that you when you were a team shoe? Is that like hyper probably? I want to say we have like the Nike like hyper dunks. Is he still you still rock those

Unknown Speaker 47:04
like playing ball or does he still play ball? I still play ball. I’m more rocking the Kyrie Irving’s and stuff right now. But the shoes that I have. I’ve had for like two years. The basketball shoes. We haven’t been playing them. There’s been a pandemic. Yeah, but I only wear like my basketball shoes only warm inside. Yeah, true. You know what I mean? Yeah, like so. I used to play and Gus Macker tournament. The three on threes outside? I haven’t been doing that recently. She used to go to Ludington one right? Yeah, that was a fun one but that’ll scuff the crap out of your shoes not to mention the fight the fights that are brought breakout. That guy got really bad so that’s why I stopped going to that one. So now I only play in like the ones that like her around here. Yeah, that is a good time. They are fun though. Yeah, they’re fun. I got like a lot of friends that do it. So it was just like a social thing to get to be able to catch up with friends and then you also get to do a couple of up and unders and pump fix.

Unknown Speaker 47:59
Oh man game. I can tell you have to be six five playing center in college you have to beat snake people would be like dunk it I’ll be like not today. I’m all day. Yeah, like my game. My game is a in college. It was a

Unknown Speaker 48:15
Division three. college level. Tim Duncan. Oh, the big fundamental. Yeah, that’s what that’s what they call me.

Unknown Speaker 48:22
Did all kinds of pump fakes and up and unders and stuff. I appreciate that. That’s a game that translates deep into your 60s as well. You can keep that game go spurs go. So I have a question for you. What is Karat Juice and kind of how did that all come about? So I remember when I was in college, growing up and first discovering audio books when I was working on the on the summers as a landscaper. And if you haven’t done landscape in Michigan, in you know, August. It is super hot, super humid. So I’d be literally like digging holes, trenches, doing all types of different landscape like hard labor hard love, loved it. Yeah, it was great. It was something about going to a place and seeing it one way and then seeing dirt and dust and then when you leave it’s all beautiful and pretty with like, you know, mulch beds and plants and everything. So I really enjoyed that work. But while I was doing that, I would listen to audiobooks. It started with audio books. What was your first book, my first book that I really got into and I listened to was actually Stephen King. audiobook. It was a spooky, really, I love scary stuff. But if you read that one Oh, yeah, I’ve seen the second one. And what was that us us who read who reads that one? Do you know? Is it Stephen King? No, I want to say it’s like Grover gardener. I thought you’re gonna say Gilbert Godfrey for a second. No. Grover gardener. He does a lot of the horror stuff and stuff but he has like a really he’s really good at doing the inflection. So the different you know, yeah, characters and stuff, but this is like a 52 hour

Unknown Speaker 50:00
audiobook that’s a whole week. It’s that’s literally why I did it. It’s a whole week of work. Because like, most of the time, you know, the person that I’m working with, they’re operating heavy machinery and stuff. And then I’m doing all this stuff. So I’m by myself a lot, you know? Yeah, getting it in. So I started listening to that audio book, and I just fell in love with, you know, the story like, the story was so well done. So well produced that eventually, it was like, I was hearing a movie, right? Like, live, you were imagining it and all that. Yeah, I literally left like my body and where I was at, and I was in the story. Yeah, that’s like, where my love of audio just like, eventually came from. Right? And did you know what at the time that that’s what was happening? Or were you just thinking this is an enjoyable thing, I just know that like, there’s something about being in somebody’s head literally. And getting that story, it’s the most like one of the most intimate forms of media that you can have. Because if somebody is willing to take the time, to listen to you, and to go about their day, and to really like sit there with you, you can really have a story a story takes hold way better in audio form. Yeah, if somebody is willing to get there. I agree. Like, it’s, it’s, it’s kind of hard to explain. I agree. Because it’s like, it forces you to use your own imagination to some, so you’re participating in a more absolute, you know, whereas if you’re watching and something like even, I kind of like sometimes putting the captions on a lot of times putting the captions on the TV, particularly because like, when I read it, then I kind of get it gets me into more of a reading vibe, or I’m picturing it more instead of just letting the movie do the work or whatever. Yeah, you know, awesome. Yeah. Do you think like,

Unknown Speaker 51:39
well, first off, was it highly produced? Like, from a sound design perspective? Was there like sound effects and stuff in it? And all that? Or was it just being read? You remember, it was just being read. And that’s pretty wild. We can go there just with that. There was no sound effects and stuff, because I felt like the sound effects and stuff would have took away from it, honestly, yeah, with that, because my mind had the sound effects and everything going on. And to piggyback on the reason why I fell in love with the audio. I love that I can I’m a multitasker. So I love that I can be working during I want to read this. Listen, it’s not something I got to pay attention to. Right? Because I’ve tried reading. And yeah, I do read from time to time, and I’ve read some really good books over the time, but who has the time to sit on a, you know, coffee chair and read, when I will put on an audio book, I could just go about like, you know, cleaning or you know, just going about my day to do. And that’s where the love of that develop. And then I always said, when I was growing up that eventually I want to write a book. So the Karat Juice was actually going to be the name of my first book. It still can be Yeah, and it. It can’t be but I’m kind of treating it like a book. Yeah. That’s the pages are being, you know, produced one episode at a time. I love it. And my thoughts? And why? Why is it called Karat Juice? The first time when I first came up with that it was carrot ca RR OT. And I thought about that. Because I didn’t want my book title to be a book title that was like,

Unknown Speaker 53:12
the magnificent life. You know, Harley Quinn or whatever, you know exactly what it is, right? I wanted it to be like yesterday’s, what’s that about? Yeah, it’d be completely something different than what it is. So that’s like where it started. But now fast forward to the podcast, the main thing that I want to get accomplished with this, it’s just getting my thoughts out there. outlet to be able to, you know, talk about whatever I want to talk about real and authentically. And eventually, when I have kids, I don’t have any kids now. But eventually, when I have kids, I think it’s gonna be really cool. And I always thought that I don’t want to leave this world and not leave anything behind. And for sure, a book is something that will always be there. So that’s kind of like the thing behind it like this podcast, you know, my podcast, it’s kind of sweet to think that you’re doing something that’s gonna always be there. So when I think about it, I think about being able to share this with my kids when they’re, it’s cool able to, to hear it to be like, This is what your dad thought about this topic. is real.

Unknown Speaker 54:15
Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 54:17
All the shit that like,

Unknown Speaker 54:19
I think that you and I are on the right side of most of this stuff. Right? Yeah. But there’s undoubtedly, without a doubt some positions that we’re going to take on our own individual podcast. That won’t be like looked down upon in 100 years. You don’t I’m saying like, but even if they are. I don’t care about it. Yeah, I think it’s cool. But this is the thing, even if there are it’ll, and your thoughts can change. Yeah, it’s literally every one of these podcasts and the way I’m looking at it with my podcast as well. You’re taking a snapshot of where you are where Montay Lee is at that moment in time. Right What I thought and eventually I’m gonna evolve with life experience and everything you’re gonna change but it’s, it’s a moment in time of this is where I

Unknown Speaker 55:00
was at this Yemen, of course, you’re not going to think that same way. Or you might write but at least you got documentation of this is where I was at at this moment. And what’s what’s more intimate, what’s something that’s more cool than being able to give something like that to the future generations to say, this is what I thought about these things. And that’s cool. That’s really cool. So it’s not fake, or anything like that, or watered down, it could just be raw for them. So when I think about it, I think about it like that. I’m talking to future generations about how I feel about the world and things like that. And hopefully they get some value out of it. If one person gets value out of it. Yeah. Then I’m happy. Well, folks, go listen to Karat Juice and also go write a review on Apple for Well, hold on. Don’t write a review for Karat Juice until you’ve written a review for this show. Yeah, I’ve got about 7071 reviews. I have 150 200 people listening each time. So there’s a disconnect. Okay. Absolutely. Once you do that, though, go also render view for Karat Juice.

Montay Lee 56:00
But, yeah, so also, one thing I’ve realized with Karat Juice, and just with podcasting in general, I feel like far too often in today’s day and age, we just don’t have enough conversations like this, right. And I’m from I was born in 88. So I’m from a generation, like, right before, everything hit the fan. So like, I remember having to call like a girl that I like, I remember having to call her dad, her dad might answer on the house. And then her mom answered, like, his little home, or just hanging out. You know, I remember that. And then I remember, you know, like the onset of MySpace and Facebook and all that. And then smartphones and everything where we’re at now, I still believe that there’s something about the one on one being able to talk to somebody in person, which is starting to get lost in today’s day, and it’s fortunately and even accelerated fashion now that the pandemic and stuff that’s like accelerated slowly, some people they have, and I like texting, it’s convenient, but I’m not a big texter. Like my girlfriend gets all my gets on me all the time. She say, you don’t text me enough, and all this stuff like that. But it’s just like, I would rather call you have a conversation, right? Because in today’s day and age, I feel like so many people, they’re just having their entire, you know, dating conversation and everything via text. So being able to use my voice and speak to people and to engage in conversation, because eventually, I want the conversation and not just be one sided. So I’m going to add things in there for sure. In my content that’s interactive. Yeah, in any way I can. Because at the end of the day, I’m a people person, I want to connect with people. Right? Right, of course. Absolutely. So I’m noticing kind of a pattern. Maybe this is off air. But you talked about how your Karat Juice your main thing right now is you want to make sure you’re consistent. So can you preach a little bit about why it’s consistency important? Because it’s also your sustainable fitness motto as well. You know, none of this stuff for you is really like, yeah, you’re gonna do it for a while and be done. It’s all kind of like a Steady, sustainable thing that really like shape, or is that being shaped by your worldview, or by lessons you learned as a kid? Or how did you get that? That’s an important thing that you’re disciplined ultimately, yeah, you’re a disciplined person. And I struggle with this. Everyone struggles with discipline so people can learn from you. How do you maintain your discipline? Well, we were talking a bit off here, what I was mainly talking about is like anything that you start, for sure.

Kirk Ross 58:38
You can’t just look for gratification right away and think that that’s going to be the end all be all, when you first start with anything, there’s going to be trial and error, you’re going to figure out what works, what doesn’t like I have already.

Montay Lee 58:52
But I feel like with anything that you do, especially if you have a passionate about it, are passionate about it. The consistency is what what’s gonna hold true over time, because you made up in your mind, I made up in my mind that I’m going to do this, and I’m going to see it through. Because that’s setting the example for future generations, people who look up to you.

And if you just want to do something like I’m never going to be somebody who’s just going to quit something that I want to do because I’m not getting the result that I want right away. Delayed gratification, you know, if then when you eventually get to where you want to be, you’ll be ready for it. I think right now, because I’m just starting out with this. Yeah, the messages that I need to formulate and how I need to put it together the perfect way. It’s not meant to hit those ears that it’s going to hit a year and a half, two years from now. I’m with you 100% Somebody that really needed to hear the message that I need to that I’m that’s in me to get out. Nice to hear it. I don’t think it needs to hit that person’s ear until like a year year and a half now when I’m sharpened, you know. So word has been you know, finely tuned. So I

Think that repetition. Without repetition, I’m only going to get better as a speaker on how to formulate my thoughts and make it concise and clear.

All of that is tied to that consistency piece. And then the way it shaped my worldview, literally just was is that did it shape your worldview? Or did your worldview get shaped by that? Like, what came first? I guess like your work? Have you always been a guy that like focus on consistency? I guess I’ve always been somebody that if I say, I’m going to do something, I’m going to try to do it to the best of my ability, no matter what, even if I feel like I don’t fear failure. I fear not trying. Because I fear I feel like so often.

people, myself included, so often when I was younger, I would say, I’m going to do this. And then I’ll put it off, put it off, put it off, put it off, but like when you say you’re going to do something, just get it started, get the ball rolling, and then don’t be afraid to fail. Yeah, you know, I feel like in today’s culture in today’s society,

Kirk Ross 1:01:04
so many people get, you know, what’s the best word trapped by indecision and error analysis on? Is this gonna sound the right way? Is this gonna be the right way? Just gonna do? Like, no, just just star our talking.

This is what this I like to tell people in the same dude, you and I are exactly to get lockstep on this. It’s like, you’re not ready now. Yeah, I’m not ready now, either. I’m a lot more ready than I was a year ago when I started this. Absolutely. You know what, I’m gonna be a lot more ready in a year from now. Whenever I look back and listen to my old stuff, I’m like, oh, man, I should have done this better that, but that’s part of it. Exactly. And by the way, you don’t really know where your limit is until you fail. Like if you if you just walk through life, and no one has this experience. But if someone just walks through life and never meets failure, then they really don’t know what it takes really to win. They know that or they know in those cases, they did more than they had to to win. But that doesn’t really teach you where your limit really is. Right? Yeah, absolutely. It’s like like you lost. Did you guys were you guys successful like Kuyper?

Montay Lee 1:02:05
Yeah NO, like, Oh, dude, my freshman year. We were really bad. That’s the thing like that was probably your first experience being on a really bad team probably right. I didn’t even tell you this in high school. I played JV as a junior because my first two years fresh. I mean, I was a freshman and sophomore in high school. I didn’t try out. I just played with my friends. junior year, I tried out I made JV. And then my senior year I try it out. And I got cut from my high school team. What was your like, MJ? In a way?

So did you did you like start getting more serious in the weight room after that, or something or what happened? I just got it. I just had a huge chip on my shoulder after getting cut my senior year. And I think that’s one of the best things that ever happened to me in my life because it forced me to work and not feel like anything gets handed over to me. That’s a failure right there. I had this huge chip on my shoulder playing in college. And yeah, my first two years, I got beat, like we got beat up. I was a skinny, scrawny kid at that time. But then I got in the weight room every year. And I continued to work on my game and got better. And I always had that chip on my shoulder that I got cut. And it literally propelled me for so by my senior year, we were actually really good. We were number one in the nation and our division. Yeah. At towards the end of the year. And I actually was an all American, my senior year in college. Dude, that’s a great, that’s like, well, that’s awesome. But it’s like, encapsulates Exactly. We’re just talking about, like the failure. It’s not for stuff. It wasn’t a failure that you got kind of just is what it was. But if not for that, I wouldn’t you want to push yourself like I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t have at all. And I’m thankful for those experiences, because they have shaped me into the person that I am right now. And a person like, I love media, like I said, and podcasts and everything. I really follow somebody named Charlemagne. Oh, I know. Sure. Charlamagne tha god yeah, of course, one of the things that he says all the time that I always think of my head is you’re never as great as they say you are and you’re never as bad as they say you are somewhere in the middle. So I try to keep that, in my mind. Stay level headed, because he doesn’t think too highly of himself. And he’s doing big things. And he’s always somebody that you know, is listening to others and learning growth. So with that type of mindset, that’s kind of like how I’m moving through the world now is I’m always trying to learn and get better and they’re never as good as you say you are they’re never as bad as you say you are you’re somewhere in the middle. Yeah, that’s a great that’s a great mindset man and the great attitude it’s it kind of feels like that that’s the issue now that’s happening in the media and stuff is everyone’s jumping to everyone’s got to jump to like the pole side of it, like the far left or far right. Not even political, but like yeah, no one’s really trying to remember like, it’s that person’s not the worst person ever live and they’re not the best. No, we’re all kind of in the middle. We’re all fucking there’s a nuance in the middle for the reasons why people do and say what they do. So I always like to prod and ask questions in any situation like that.

Kirk Ross 1:05:00
Like, what happened here? What did the person say? You know what I mean? There’s always more to it. It’s never cut and dry. Never, ever with anything in life. No. It’s like you talked about earlier in your even in your probate work or you talk or your probation work or you talked about, someone reacts to you all snippy it’s, you’re aware at that point that it’s okay, something probably far worse than what I just said happened to them. That’s what that’s where that’s coming from.

Montay Lee 1:05:26
It’s not me, I don’t know you. I don’t know you. It’s not me that you’re angry at there’s obviously something that happened. And it’s not on me to react with anger. Because so often in those situations, people react with anger and it escalates the situation. Yeah, then no, you’re fighting about is the stuff that you said, after you’re mad, nothing even to do with the core issue, tension in the room and all that stuff that doesn’t need to be there. Instead, if you actually listen, I try to listen to people and hear them and hear, like, really, actually actively listen, and figure out what this person is trying to convey to me. You know, and I try I take my emotions out of it, you know, it’s nothing personal or anything like that. And then I try to respond there with goal in mind being how can we, you know, add value to this person find a solution have a better version of themselves? Yeah, if you look at it like that, you know, look at it with your ego, and your feelings. You, you will be successful in your interaction with that person, no matter what, even if it’s a tense situation, because personally, people always ask me like, do why don’t you ever seem like you’re angry? Why don’t you ever seem like things are out of you? Because I look at it through that lens. I can just take things in and not have my ego involved. And it helps me to be a way better, you know, communicated with people in those tents, situation, I feel like I thrive in those tents. Do you ever have? Do you ever lose it? Like in in your person? Maybe not in your professional world? Like in your personal life? Is it ever harder? So you just have that natural disposition? Or I’ve always had that natural disposition? Sometimes it makes people angry? Yeah. When you’re when I’m not upset, and when I’m not showing that much emotion?

Yeah, because it’s just like, I’m, I’m looking at it through that lens. So I’ve gotten some pushback a bit. Because of that, because it’s just like, hey, like, why don’t you ever get you know what I mean? But I turn up hot takes out there guys might let Montay stay even keel we need that we need more exactly. Like, I’ll save it for the hot takes. But like, I think having that kind of perspective when it comes to things that are coming at me and also the profession that I’m in always hearing wild stuff, you know, she can escalate quickly helps you to be level headed and be like, Man, gratitude. Like, I live. That’s one of the things that I live by in my life, like gratitude, gratitude for where I’m at in life, that things that I have shelter, food, friends, family, like if you walk through life with that kind of mindset and perspective, like, I’m grateful for where I am, like, really, and then everything else that you get beyond that is a bonus. Yeah, so it’s just like, I’m not getting you mad at me. Like, I don’t know if you heard that Drake song was an intro at the beginning of one of Drake songs where somebody’s saying, right, like at the beginning of sonder saying, you man, you big man. Oh, you

look at you, you I don’t want to argue with you. Like you talking about but..

Kirk Ross 1:08:52
that mentality is cool.

Montay Lee 1:08:54
Like, yeah, I don’t got time to be arguing with you. You know, yeah. What’s in my life? And I’m grateful for the things that I have. Yeah. And I think that’s a good mentality to have just moving forward through life.

Kirk Ross 1:09:05
Dude, I think I mean, people watching listening, the more like Montay. I mean, I appreciate you coming on. And I appreciate your disposition. Dude, you’ve always been a cool guy that I’ve I’ve been looking forward to having you sit down. I’m glad you’re I’m glad you’re starting your own. You know, even doing your own creative stuff. But I’m also glad that you’re adding the podcast here to your repertoire. I really appreciate the journey part of or the journaling part of it. You’re kind of journaling. Yeah, that’s what I’m doing too, you know, on my Tuesday one, so I never really was able to

I’ve never really been asked about it, I suppose. But like I concur with a lot of the reasons that you’re doing it too. I’m surprised nobody asked you. Well, I have a I have an interview coming up for the show or one of my early guests is gonna interview me. Oh, that’s on my show. So like, I’m sure that stuff will come up on that. That’s gonna feel awkward, because that’s always on this in. Definitely. Like I could tell you like you like how I talked about from starting to finish

Montay Lee 1:10:00
You feel way more comfortable interviewing?

Kirk Ross 1:10:02
Oh my God now and like you ask great question my interviewing you know what the big I appreciate that but the biggest thing is I do a lot more nonverbal. This that’s a skill that you’ll pick up too. But this kind of stuff. Uh huh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it helps. It sucks, though. It’s good for you. It’s good for the person talking because I’m giving you feedback that I’m listening. But when you’re trying to edit and you got you’re trying to cut yourself, oh, oh, no, you’re trying to so now I just give you more like, Yeah, but I need them like a comedian. Oh, yeah, you need that everyone needs I think active listening is a huge thing. You’re good at it. I think that’s, I think, ultimately, you’re gonna have a successful interviewing show if you want. Because I think you’re gonna be able to get people comfortable with you. And you talk all day with your defendants. Right?

Montay Lee 1:10:44
I mean, so you know how to like get through. I see people that are kind of, perhaps not really wanting to open up to you. Sometimes you get people who talk too much. Of course, I’m a master of cutting people are put off. Oh, where are we going? Don’t incriminate yourself. All right. Um, we’re like, Hey, where are we going? Okay, I’m asking about this. Alright, alright. I want to know where you live in here? Cool.

Kirk Ross 1:11:05
But Won’t somebody tell you the whole life story?

Montay Lee 1:11:07
Just like..I’m a master cuz I’m just like, okay. Alright, we’re gonna hear it. I tried to in a respectful way. Yeah, but you got to be the master of cutting people off.

Kirk Ross 1:11:15
Oh, Jessica, my wife’s like that with some of her clients. Like they’ll, they? It’s a her they’re your counselor to these people. She’s a counselor to these people. And they start talking about everything and she constantly has to snap them back. I just asked about your address. You’re paying me I don’t really know like everything else and like what you have for breakfast? It’ll go there. Yeah, I’m just like, I agree. I agree that windmills are the best way to sustain future power but that has nothing to do with your case. Can we get back on it? Yeah, let’s get to let’s get to the business. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, dude, I appreciate you coming on man. Do you have anything else you want to say I something’s something I’ll leave you with?

Montay Lee 1:11:48
You are responsible for everything that you have going on in your life. Don’t be a victim, Be a Victor and all the things that you can control. I feel like far too often in these day in times people are looking left right up and down on while they’re why they are in a particular situation. Have a victim mentality rather than a victim mentality. And I feel like you will go far because at the end of the day, you’re in control of your life.

Kirk Ross 1:12:22
Amen. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me brother. Finn. Great Oh yeah, dude, that was awesome. That’s a good way to enter to man Hell yeah. That’s it.

“Could You Go & Fun(d) for Me” – a Billionaire

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(Episode 6) In this episode, I cover some interesting topics from the past week. How petty can you be? What a boss will do to make sure that you don’t get paid… this story will blow your mind. Danica Patrick saying that she needs a high-quality person next? Well alright then…. also we cover why a Billionaire is asking for funds for a friend in need. Lastly, Saweetie got her Birkin and that’s it. My reaction to these topics and more on this installment of Karat Juice. Sit down, relax, grab a snack, and take a sip.  Go and check out the A Talk In The Attic Podcast hosted by Kirk Ross. In the most recent episode, he interviews me, Montay Lee, and you can get a more in-depth understanding of my roots and what makes me tick. Podcast link :

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Ep. 5 2 plus 2 is Four… no Actually it’s a True Patriot

Summary

In this episode… we discuss some jarring news that emerged within the past week. First of all, what is going at Charlie Hebdo? My reaction/response to their most recent satirical cover, which was met with controversy as it was no laughing matter. Secondly, let’s have a chat about what it means to be a ‘True Patriot’ and Senator Ron Johnson’s statement regarding the Capitol Riot. Additionally, if you haven’t heard A-Rod & JLo called it quits and ended their engagement after four years and there are some rumors swirling around as to why. So let’s talk about it. Grab a snack, take a seat, and indulge. 

2 plus 2 is Four… no Actually it’s a True Patriot (Episode 5) Karat Juice Podcast

Sources courtesy of TMZ: Charlie Hebdo article courtesy of TMZ. Senator Ron Johnson’s courtesy of TMZ. A-Rod & JLo split

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Montay Lee 0:23
Welcome, welcome. Thank you for taking the time. This is Karat Juice, a place where we have a fun, real and relevant conversation. Your host Montay Lee will drop some jewels of knowledge. So sit back, grab yourself a sandwich and take a sip. Today, I want to get right into what I’ve been thinking about and what’s been going on in my mind leading up to this show. There has been a lot going on in the world this past week, today’s March 15. And I want to be very clear about what I want to say today because the topic is touchy. But we have real conversations here at Carey juice. So I’m going to delve in today we’re going to be talking about the royal family. And as well Sharlee Abdu Abdo, I’m not French, so pardon my French. And this isn’t a joking matter. This article came across my newsfeed when I was scrolling through TMZ I browse TMZ from time to time and a couple of days ago I saw this posted on March 13, around 12:08pm And this is according to TMZ. If you haven’t seen what I’m talking about, I’m gonna put a link to this article in the show notes. Before listening to what I’m about to say now take a look at the show notes. Click on that. Read the article and see the image and then come back to this. This is the title QEII to referring to Queen Elizabeth the Second Neil’s on Megan’s neck, referring to Megan Markel, mocking George Floyd. In this cartoon depiction. You see a cartoon character of Queen Elizabeth kneeling on Megan Markel his neck and according to the article what Megan is saying is why Megan left no what what it’s saying is for to Megan acquit Buckingham which translates to why Megan left bugging cam there’s a quote, bubble coming from Megan’s caricature in this illustration as well, that roughly comes out to because I couldn’t breathe anymore. Anybody who has watched TV or just been alive in America within the past four months, knows what this is depicting. This is the big depicting what happened in Wisconsin when Derek scharffen police officer kneeled on the neck of a black man George Floyd. While someone recorded the incident, there were multiple officers standing by during this ordeal, and George Floyd was gasping for air while a police officer Derek Chavon, had his neck, his knee on the neck of George Floyd for over eight minutes while he was crying out for his mom and him screaming and pleading that he couldn’t breathe. George Floyd as we all know, succumbed to his injuries and died And America responded. Black people responded. Young people responded, oh people responded. Heck, even other police officers responded and said that is wrong.

Even if you disagree with how people protested, you can not with a clear conscious agree that kneeling on the neck of an American citizen for eight minutes when the person is not armed and not a threat to anybody is right. So in this article by Charlie Hebdo, the satire publication they were recreating that tragic moment and an awful attempt, according to the article and according and I agree, in an awful attempt at a parody. The French magazine was using Queen Elizabeth as Derek Shaaban kneeling on Megan Markel. This is a response to the interview that Megan had with Oprah last week, where there was some bombshell relevant revelations that the world got to know about the royal family and some sentiments that’s been going through that core policy organization. So there’s a lot of publicity and media coverage, even more so than ever around the royal family because of that interview. So, back on the topic with this Sharlee Abdo, they just released a new edition of It’s a weekly publication. And this was it. What I was just referring to this is not a funny matter. There’s nothing funny about what happened. This past May to George Floyd. What he had to go through an indoor crying out for his mama Wow. The life was being literally crushed out of him. It’s not funny. I don’t know what the editor the people who have to do with the eyes that this has to see before it can be published. What is going on? What are they thinking? What are they doing? I understand humor, I understand a good laugh. But this is not a laughing matter in any way. And if somebody thinks this is right. I I’m speechless. How could you think that? Putting that image out there? And pretty much mocking what happened to Mr. Floyd? is okay. In response, many are calling the magazine racist and demanding that the issue peopled however, I’m more concerned that there are multiple people that saw this and thought it was okay and pushed it out. According to the article, by TMZ, it states the message they’re trying to communicate, or so it seems, is that Meghan felt smothered by Royal racism headed up by the Queen. Because in the previous interview that I mentioned with Oprah, she alluded to that. She also alluded to, and did not disclose who told her or mentioned it, that there were conversations in the royal family about their son, Harry and Megan son, his skin tone and how that would affect their image. So it seems like this magazine, this publication is trying to make a parallel between racism Alleged Racism in the royal family, and what happened to George Floyd. And I’m gonna just say this now, you can keep your cheap correlations and your illustrations and you’re trying to be funny. This is not a Matter never has been. And I take issue with a magazine, a parody magazine trying to capitalize on the death of a black man in such a crude way.

Surely Sharley Abdu, I encourage you to do this stay away from making fun of something that’s so sensitive, the nation is healing, and then a process of doing that. And you guys are from France. Sharlee Abdou is headquartered in France? Why don’t you deal with things that are happening in France? Because here in America, what we’re trying to do, we’re trying to heal from what happened in May 2020. And what’s going on at the Royal Palace, and what’s going on in France, and got anything to do with America, and what we are feeling and what we’ve gone through, and me being a black man. It’s different. I’m not saying that the magazine should be ended, or that they should shut their doors and that they haven’t done anything in good taste. I’m not saying that. But what I’m saying is there’s better ways to handle yourself. And it doesn’t include making fun of the death of a black man at the hands of a police officer, who kneeled on his neck for eight minutes. Let’s not tie that to the the racism that Megan felt in the royal palace. Like, are we serious? Is that what we’re really doing? We’re trying to tie the sensibilities and how the Duchess felt with racism to a man who died. Who was crushed by the knee of a white police police officer on his neck. Where’s the comparison? Sharlee up do? You guys are better than this. I know one thing, you’re better than this. You are. And I have something else that I want to talk about. I remember Charlene Abdu. Because they had the situation in 2015. That was so horrendous that happened to them.

Let me harken back to that. Back in January of 2015. Did everybody remember this? From January 2 to the ninth, there was a gunman attack on Charlie Hebdo offices in Paris. According to our article by bbc.com A black Citroen C three drove up to the Charlie Hebdo building in Rouen Nicholas apart. And there were two mass gunman, dressed in black and arm with assault rifles, got out and approached the offices. They burst into number six at that location, before realizing that they had the wrong address. And then they move down to a another address down the road where the Charlie Hebdo offices were on the second floor. When they were inside, they proceeded to shoot and kill multiple people. And while doing so they killed four cartoonists and three editorial staff and a guest who was attending a meeting. All the while the gunman were shouting that they were avenging the Prophet Muhammad and yelling that God is great. In Arabic while calling up the names of the journalists. This was all in response to a cartoon illustration where The radicals felt like they were defending the honor of Prophet Mohammed because of an illustration that was published by Charlie Hebdo.

very tragic, not condoning anything that happened in this incident. However, I feel like whoever is doing the editorial work there really needs to be more mindful and practical of the impact that what they put out that they believe is humorous, can have on the world? I just found it so distasteful. What happened in this ordeal? And I don’t believe that violence is the answer. It is not the answer. It never has been. But the controversy that has been surrounding this publication is getting alarming. And at the end of the day, what I want to see more often is I want to see people making fun of things that don’t revolve around. Like something. I know that when you make light of something, Humor has a place in this world. But there’s just certain times where you got to have some discretion and some common sense to know when something is just out of line and crude. And that’s where this went, in my opinion. I just had to get that off my chest because it’s been on my mind. And like I said before, I don’t want Charlie Hebdo to be canceled or anything like that. But we need to really look at the people who are running that organization. Editorially. And that’s what I have to say about that. So before I get into the next segment, we’re going to pause here, pay some bills, and we’ll commence after that. And we’re back. So moving forward. Another thing I wanted to cover had to do with article that I also saw on TMZ. That was published on March 13. And it goes a little like this get it pulled up here. So according to Senator Ron Johnson, who was a Republican senator, out of Wisconsin he was on a show recently he was on if I get this right

we almost got it yet.

Well, you saw no. Oh, the job the Joe pag show. So he was on the Joe pag show. And he had something very interesting to say. So Senator Johnson. He stated that he did not feel threatened at all during the failed coup attempt on January six. Because the rioters were true, patient. Rewind, the rioters were true patriots. But God forbid if the shoe was on the other foot where Trump won and there was a Black Lives Matter capital protests? Well, in that case, he says that would be downright scary. Huh? So even though there were 1000s of people who were marching on the Capitol trying to pressure people, like the Senator to vote, and they want him to vote, this is what he’s quote. And he said, even though even though those 1000s of people were marching on the Capitol, we’re trying to am we’re trying to pressure people like me to vote the way they wanted me to vote. I knew those people that I knew those were people that love this country that truly respected law enforcement, and would never do anything to break the law. So I wasn’t concerned. Say what now? If I don’t remember correctly, cops were beaten by protesters. I literally saw a video of cops being mauled and punched, and, you know, stepped on by by rioters. These were not protesters. There were 140 of them injured. Law enforcement and one was killed, a law enforcement officer was killed in this incident. So how is that law enforcement? How is that law abiding? Like, two plus two is four. I’ll say that again. Two plus two is four, two plus two, is it true patriots.

And then we’ll get on to what he has to say about Black Lives Matter. So Senator Johnson also stated that had the tables been turned and President Trump won the election. And those were 10s of 1000s of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters. He might have been a little concerned. This is clearly some pandering to his base, at the highest level. This is some tightrope walk in wanting to be reelected. Crap. It’s just not. It doesn’t make any sense. Anybody with common sense, knows that what happened on January 6 was a stain on America for all Americans. White, Black, Puerto, Rican, Asian, Hispanic, whatever you are, it’s not a good look, because America is the land of opportunity, the land of the free home of the brave. That’s not what was displayed on January 6. We are supposed to be the example for the world for freedom for democracy, for peaceful transfer of power. And that’s not what happened. So how can you as a politician, somebody who is elected by us say, Now what happened on January 6, was the behavior of true patriots. If that’s the behavior true patriots, I would like to know what he believes real lawlessness is I don’t believe lawlessness has anything to do with the color of your skin. The way this guy is talking, as long as somebody has a Trump hat on naked slap him right beside his face, and he would he would think it was raining, piss on his face. And he would think it was it was rain. or crazy. So let’s have some common sense people and realize that just because my skin is black, doesn’t mean I have any animosity towards you. Doesn’t mean that I like a lot of taxes. Doesn’t mean that just because you voted for Trump or that you are a Republican, I have those values that I treat you any less than or I think you’re, you know, your voice doesn’t need to be heard. That’s not the case at all. But it’s when you have a blatant disregard and you treat people a completely different way because of the way they look. Rather than looking at the facts. The facts are. There were a bunch of people who went up to the Capitol with Mal intentions, and it wasn’t law abiding citizens. Nobody can look me in the face and say that’s what happened. But the fact that there’s somebody that is in that position of power, who believes this nonsense is troubling, whatever we need to do, here in America, if that means you need to go to your local elections, your local boards and start taking action against this type of stuff, that’s where it changes. It doesn’t change up top, it changes by people getting involved with their local elections, I don’t care if you vote Republican, I don’t care if you vote Democrat. I’m telling everybody vote your interest. You don’t want more taxes than you vote for that. You want to see immigration reform, you vote for that. But us as Americans, we need to start taking action. And we need to start being people that are not just complaining about what’s going on and actually getting active and making something change. Enough of the excuses. Enough of the reason why I’m not where I’m at is because the man’s holding me down. Or I don’t get enough opportunities for that. That’s bull crap. If you want something enough, you can go get it. And that’s as simple as that. We got to stop being complacent people, we got to stop allowing people to be in positions like that.

And express these views and nothing happened. What I’m saying is, it seems like this guy, Mr. Senator Ron Johnson is going to try to run for election again, we need somebody to run up against them to have some common sense whether they Republican or Democrat, because we can’t have delusional people in positions where they can legislate for our country. And that’s what I got to feel about. That’s what I feel about that.

Well, this has been deep. This has been Real, but sometimes you got to get deeper real when the world throws this at you. I’m not complaining about it. I’m just reacting to it. Okay, so moving forward. I got one more topic to discuss. And then we will close this show out after this message. And we’re back. So another thing I wanted to cover I heard some news. Unfortunately that there’s a power couple who are no longer so apparently Jennifer Lopez and Alex and Alex Rodriguez are breaking it up breaking it off after like four years and I was sad to hear this because I thought JLo was gonna finally get her man and I guess some of us do got a chance now just a couple of stock a plane and but yeah, so apparently you know all my stuff from TMZ right now. So but apparently Jennifer Lopez and Alex Rodriguez breakup wedding is off. If you follow she has 146 million followers on Instagram. If you follow Jay law on Instagram, you could see this rock and my goodness it has its own zip code timezone. Insurance Agent accountant, this rock is crazy that he gave her and they’re splitting up. It’s San according to the article. It’s unclear what caused the split but I think we know what happened. Apparently, I heard through the grapevine that he was found with 30 year old blonde. Who’s a star on Southern charm. If you ever seen it. I’ve never seen it. Apparently it’s a reality show. I might have to indulge to see what’s going on. So apparently he was found with this Madison Croix of southern charm getting cozy. A rod defin out on a J. Lo, man. Huh? You guys remember in living color back in the day in living color, you can do what you wanna do. And if good luck to so J Lo she got her start. She was a fly girl. So she was doing like the dancing in between, like the skits, like in living color was one of the first sketch comedy like quick sketch shows. I don’t know what the traditional way but like what Saturday like Night Live is now in living color was black people’s version of that. And it was way better, by the way. Not as corny. Sorry, Saturday Night Live Your corny. I can’t I can’t watch it. But that’s where I first was introduced to Jennifer Lopez. And I’ve kind of followed her from there. always liked her stuff. Anything that she does as far as movies. I’ll, you know partake in her music hasn’t been good in like 10 years, as far as I’m concerned. Sorry. JLo. But the movies, I’m all for it. But yeah, man, this is sad. Because I think she’s 52 She still looks great. She still looks like she’s 30 Like, like not a date best. 30. But I just feel like there’s been so many different instances with JLo where she’s been engaged fall through Mary last for six months or nine months, and then divorced. I just, it’s happened over and over again. And at some point, you start to wonder like, man, is it ever gonna happen for her? Well, if not, she got her money. You know, she’s rich. But I think we all know money isn’t everything. And I just hope she’s not really like a diva. Well, how could you not be a diva and be Jennifer Lopez. That’s the dilemma to have.

I think a lot of people say that they want to Diva and they want somebody that strong willed and you know shot color and all that. But if you’re around the person all the time and they get on your nerves, I don’t think you care how pretty they are. At some point, you’re just like, Man, I just want to eat a sandwich. Relax, you know, watch. Watch March Madness and cold asleep. So I just found that to be interesting, because I’m never caveat. I’ve never liked Alex Rodriguez. I always thought he was just kind of a just kind of to clean cut. Do you know what I mean? Like you ever see a guy talk? Or just see the way he moves? And he just seems like he’s trying too hard. That’s how I always felt about Alex Rodriguez. Like, he looks like he does his eyebrows. You don’t think that’s strange? That’s kind of weird to me. A guy doing his eyebrows. Huh? Well, whatever floats your boat man. So I wish them both the best. Moving forward. She still looks great. But JLo you’ll get over this. I’m pretty sure her DMs are about to be popped. And we’ll leave it at that I wanted to leave you with something a little light, which wasn’t that light. But sometimes you got to have these episodes that are real, where it sparks a greater conversation. And I really do want to say this it’s not the world’s responsibility to give you understanding. The world doesn’t owe you anything just because you’re in it. If you want to do anything, you have to be willing to put in the work to master your craft to get feedback and take constructive criticism and live with the outcome from there. You are not you know Gotta be given anything in life. But that’s the beauty in life. Because when you finally do get something, it’s gonna feel that much better that you work for it. I’m willing to delay gratification for the long haul. I enjoy doing this, I enjoy speaking. I enjoy getting my thoughts across in a way that I hope is, you know, comprehendible, that’s concise, where you can understand that it’s real, it’s not fake and contrived. That’s what I’m here for at the end of the day. And if I can reach one person, and help them to get some perspective, from all of this, that’s what I’m here for. I always say, I’m just Honing and sharpening my craft each time I do one of these episodes. And eventually, things will be exactly where they need to be. I’m willing to willing to delay gratification because I believe in myself, and I believe that what I can do, and that comes from a life of not having everything, I didn’t have everything growing up. And I’m so grateful for that now that I wasn’t granted everything. Because it’s given me that chip on my shoulder and the mentality to work, I enjoy working, I don’t complain when I have to go into the office and get some things done. I thrive and I thrive with adversity. And I think that’s come from things that have happened in my life, being laid off multiple times. Having to go do direct sales, I did direct sales before I went in knock door to door and sold. And to do that you got to have a backbone. To do that you have to be willing and able to have somebody tell you no, every single day, I got told no and door slammed in my face multiple times. But but because of that, no situation. seems weird to me.

I could just talk to people straight up real. And that’s what I try to get across and every interaction I have with people. Because so many people I feel like in today’s day and age are just kind of walking through life. Laissez Faire. Some people they go through their whole life and they’re on a on a phone texting most of their life. That’s not real life. So I encourage you to start working on your personal development. Meditation is good. Reading about different things that interest you. I’ve always been into reading I love documentaries. I love to listen to audio books. I’ve already talked about this before. Just growth because if I’m constantly learning and I’m constantly growing, I’m becoming a better version of myself each and every day. And it’s my goal to get better by one degree each and every day. If you do that. There’s nothing you can’t do in time. So I’m gonna let you go with that. Oh, quote for the day. To hell with circumstances, I create opportunities. Bruce Lee. And that’s been another episode of Karat Juice. Please like and subscribe. Anything you can do leave a review, please. It helps out a lot. Give me some feedback on some topics you guys want me to cover? I’m going to post the links to some of the articles that I talked about in this as well. And make sure that you go to that anchor feed and you leave me a voice message so that I could get some feedback from you guys because like I said before, I want this to be interactive. So with that being said, Love Somebody eat something good. hug somebody and I’ll see you guys in the next one, or speak to you guys in the next one. Peace.

Ep. 4 Are We in The Future?!

Summary

On today’s show… 

-We are covering the Senate Finally passing a $1.9 Trillion dollar stimulus package. 

-I am also curious about what you are watching nowadays? I plan on covering a variety of shows/movies and would like some feedback from you. 

-Lastly, I will cover some futuristic news that emerged from the internet depths of the internet this past week. So please sit back, relax, and indulge in a fresh helping of Karat Juice. 

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Montay Lee 0:22
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank you for joining me for another episode of Karat Juice. I’m your host Montay. Lee, sit down, relax, enjoy yourself. Thank you for spending the time. Karat Juice, this is a podcast where we have real conversations about a variety of topics. And I give my twist my take on a variety of things. Some housekeeping, I’m going to be releasing this podcast every Tuesday, weekly, I have some bonus content and things like that, that I will be also adding to this podcast over time. But as of right now, it’s going to be a weekly show, you can expect to get pushed out every Tuesday. Where do I start? First topic I wanted to cover I want to talk about the Senate finally passing a 1.9 trillion COVID relief package. And did I say finally, my main thing with this lack of progress by Congress has been at some point we have to decide. What are they doing up there in those positions? We Americans vote. We speak with our voice we speak with our vote. Right. But from what I’ve seen recently, when it comes to legislation, whether you’re left leftists, you’re you’re on the right or you’re on the far right. We all can agree that at least I believe, correct me if I’m wrong, we all can agree that we put politicians in those positions to do what to legislate. If you’re not pushing legislation forward and doing things that are going to aid the American people in a time of crisis, then why are you there? I feel like all of the political minutia, the tradition, the all of the methods that can be used and that have been used over time have done something very well, which is keep legislation slow. Keep reform in areas of the country that really need to be addressed on both sides. status quo. I believe until a light is shined in that area. Things are gonna continue to be what they have been what’s the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We know what to expect from the Senate and Congress and the House of Representatives. Just the bickering, the infighting back and forth. I just want people in those positions to do their job. legislate. Please, that’s what the American people put you there for. Like, also, I wanted to get into how can someone of influence be able to relate to someone living below the poverty line or worse? How far removed are the socio-economic situations for some people in these positions? Can they really relate to someone who’s struggling who doesn’t know where their next meal is gonna come from? Who doesn’t know where their rent is going to come from? I believe that the people who are in power positions in the country are so far removed from real strife that bickering about, you know, a COVID relief package for so long is not conducive to the economy is not conducive to us moving forward, and don’t get me wrong. I’m Not saying that people shouldn’t work hard. I’m a huge proponent of working hard, doing the best you can.

Not having a victim mentality. Having a go-getter mentality, I’m all about that. But in those situations during this pandemic, where people like in the service industry, for instance, weren’t able to work literally cannot work due to restrictions that prohibited them from prohibited them from making money. That’s a situation where things like that need to be protected. I mean, what are we talking about here? At the end of the day, in America, you should be able to go out, work hard, make an honest living in at least have food on the table, and a place to shelter yourself. Those are basic necessities that if someone is working a full-time job should be able to have. So basically, what I’m trying to say is step it up people. There’s people out here struggling. And we, as the American people, employ you, politician, so do your job. And that’s pretty much what I have to say about that. Another Oh, before I get too far above myself. I do have a message, a short message right here. From one of the sponsors shows, just give me a moment, and we will be right back. And we’re back. So all my free time, during my free time, something I like to do is I like to watch TV and films. So I have a question for you. What are some shows that you are watching right now that are worthwhile? I’m looking forward to a show in particular that more likely than not, I’m going to do a reaction on and it’s called you. It’s on Netflix. It’s a very, very was gripping show. If you haven’t seen it already, go check it out. I’m not going to go too far into detail about this show right now. So you should be safe. But FYI, I’m talking about you. The first and second season is on Netflix currently. And there should be Season Three coming sometime here in 2021, according to Netflix, but with that being said, I really enjoyed you because of the development of the characters and also the constant building of tension throughout the tenure of the program the show in general, but throughout the season, it would just build and build and build until awesome Utley, it would erupt, it would have all different types of twists and turns into that type of cinema and that type of shows. So lately, I have been really at a loss to find a show to scratch that need for me to watch things of that nature. So I’m just reaching out to you to ask what are you watching right now? Is there anything that you’re seeing that you think would be worthwhile on and I want to let you guys know this on the anchor feed that is attached to my Instagram Montay Lee, and also you can follow me at carrot juice pod. On my Instagram in my bio, there’s a link to the anchor feed. And in that feed, you can send me a voice message. And feel free to send me a voice message. give me feedback about the show, answer questions that I might have or just leave a comment or say whatever you want to say on there. I want this to be interactive. I want this podcast to be a place where you can laugh. You can learn something, you can get some insight. You can get a different perspective. I don’t want this to be drab. I don’t want it to be just me talking all the time. So I would love to get that interaction with you

guys. That’s what I’m here for. So, another thing that’s coming down the pike that I’m pretty excited about is coming to America is the sequel to the 1988 Classic, which was a doozy. Still a co classic, some of the best one liners ever. And Eddie Murphy’s really stand out role that propelled him into superstardom. I haven’t seen the movie yet. I, so I don’t really have much to say about it. But I will most likely be doing a review, reaction, something short and sweet about the film, because it’s worth it, it has that much gravity. It is. It’s coming to America Come on, like, who doesn’t love that movie. It’s iconic in so many ways. And I hope that they they do a justice in this. In this sequel. I’ve appeared at social media a little bit and saw that there’s some mixed reactions, but I’m gonna reserve judgment as of right now because I don’t want to skew my thoughts have it or taint my view of the movie. So. And I’ll just set that down and leave that there. With that being said, another thing that I wanted to talk about was oh, I’ll get it. I’ll get into that here in a moment after this message

all right. Do you believe it’s wise to give billionaires money for their tweets? I repeat, do you believe it’s wise to get billionaires money for their first tweet? I found this article recently and I thought it was hilarious. So according to an article published by The Verge, billionaire founder and CEO of Twitter is a big time advocate of Bitcoin. You don’t say a lot of people are advocates of Bitcoin for various reasons. And his latest endeavor, in in social media, you ask, what’s that? What’s that? What does he know? So, apparently, he is literally monetizing his first tweet ever, which reads, and this is an article that I’m given the source credit to to The Verge, published by The Verge, according to the article, his first tweet the the many amigabit Can we get it up? actually submit? Um, so I’m quoting this correctly. Here, Jack Dorsey. Okay. So according to Jack Dorsey, he, the first tweet was just setting up my Twitter, and that was published on March 21 2006. And according to the article published by The Verge, despite the fact that this tweet has been publicly, publicly available as a digital item to look at anywhere, or wherever anybody want it for nearly 15 years. Mr. Dorsey is now trying to sell it as an NF T. What is an NF t you say it NF T is a non fungible token. And this is through a platform called valuable so pretty much he’s selling his tweet. As a virtual, you know, product. This is getting ridiculous people I saw another. I see another thing that’s kind of working in this foray, and I’m just gonna go out and say it’s a bubble people. Come on, it’s virtual products, literally digital cards. Did you hear about the thing that the NBA is doing? They’re doing something called NBA Top Shot where you can buy virtual high Lights. So just like trading guards, you could buy a virtual highlight of, for instance, Zion Williams is Zion Williamson’s first dunk in the NBA, some, some nonsense like that, and I can look it up here it’s a ridiculous amount of money that people are paying for this. So apparently I’m looking at okay, yeah, here, Zion Williamson’s first ball lock. Literally block like blocking a jump shot. His first block is selling for $210,000 It’s literally people are buying the virtual highlight you got that right. It’s called NBA Top Shot. look this up. A virtual highlight of Zion Williams is the first block in the NBA, which occurred on January 24 2020. is selling for $210,000. That’s it a virtual highlight. Are you people are your living minds? A virtual highlight and you’re selling that you can get the highlights on YouTube. For way for free. I can go look at his highlight. Why do you need to own it? People we can’t own everything. You can’t own the highlight outright. It’s a blocked shot. It’s not like he parted the Red

Sea like Moses. I wouldn’t pay for the eye light. And that was some miraculous astounding stuff right there and I wouldn’t pay for that. 210 I’m looking at it right now on the website $210,000. For Zion Williamson’s first blocked shots. By all means, I play basketball. I played college basketball. I’m not a pro. I never played in the league, but I blocked a lot of shots. I’ll take a Subway sandwich for one of my blocks you know, let me make my order right now. Let me see. Let me get a spicy Italian with Italian herbs and cheese bread with some pizza sauce. Oh yeah… gotta have that on there. Some green peppers, some onion, some shredded.. some-some cheddar. Low oregano. Did I say onion? Yeah, onion. wrap that up for me real nice. Yeah, I’ll take that. Take that for my block as a sophomore. And I’ll keep it moving. So I just thought that was crazy. So billionaire CEO Twitter is selling his first tweet. And currently that wheat is going for the bidding as of when the article was published, which was March 5 2021. In the evening, the bid for the first wheat was north of $80,000 at that point. And then a little later on as a Saturday morning. The highest offer for Jack Dorsey’s first tweet, which is just setting up my Twitter was $2 million from another tech entrepreneur. And then later that evening, the highest bid was 2.5 million for a tweet. The tweet had been on the site on Twitter for 15 years on touch, just setting my Twitter and now he selling it as an NFT. official description of an NFT. So this is according to the article as well. What’s an NF T? NFTs allow you to buy and sell ownership of unique digital items and keep track of who owns them using the blockchain. So this blockchain is similar to Bitcoin if you are not already. No, I’m not that savvy when it comes to Bitcoin but I know that there’s a blockchain with a bunch of ones and zeros somewhere in code and it’s encrypted in some way. And accordingly, this non fungible token NFT. And it can technically contain anything digital, including drawings, animated GIFs songs or items in video games. And NFT can either be one of a kind like a real life painting, or one copy of many like trading cards, but the blockchain keeps track of who has ownership of the file. And also, according to this article in NFTS have been making headlines lately, some selling for millions of dollars with high profile memes, like whatever, this is Nyan Cat and the deal with it sunglasses being put up for auction. And then it says if you understandably still have questions, you can read through our NFT fact. No, thanks, I will keep my money. Good. And where it is, we’re getting to a point right now, when it comes to spending money that people are spending money on digital things that are real. Unplug yourself from the Matrix people. They are trying to sell you things nowadays that you can’t hold in your hands. Literally, this is like I feel like I’m in the matrix. I feel I feel like I’m in cyberpunk. So are you trying to tell me that a couple of years from now, I’m going to go to a burger restaurant that I enjoy Culvers for example, I’m going to go to Culvers I’m really hungry. I want to Deluxe butter burger. Okay, we’re extra onions, some fries, and a concrete mixer.

Okay, we’re in the future. We’re live in we’re doing we’re doing good things, you know, life is good, the sun shining, it’s still out there. You know, climate change hasn’t, you know, taken over the world yet? So I go into the coal verse, you know, in my, my, you know, air 2020 5070 or whatever. Okay. And I’m trying to buy makeovers Deluxe, and they say, well, we don’t have that, but we have an NFT style version of your burger. And you’ll buy it here with Apple Pay Of course. And then we will share the file of it with you. And it will show all the contents of the burger. What what what the flavor profile is. And we’ll do the same for your fries and shake. What in the freaking world are we doing people were buying fake items. I didn’t even know that much about the whole Bitcoin thing. But this is getting ridiculous. All I’m gonna say is unplug yourself. Look Within find value in things that actually exist. Back in the day, if you told some people 1000 years ago, that hey, don’t don’t spend your money on gold. I have a math problem. I eat blockchain I have a I have a math problem. Problem. I have a math algorithm over here. And it will keep everything nice and secure and safe. But only so many people know how to use it and do it. So no spend your spin your money spend your coins, your shillings your shekels to set your shackles. Spend your goats over here. Okay? And don’t worry about it. You know the gold, gold is out of style. Get some of this, you know, MIT coin that I got over here. Get some of this NFT you know, because deal. If you like math. Math is cool, right? If you like math, and hey, this will work. It’s safe. But only so many people know what it even means Yeah. Let’s see how that works for you. So that’s how I feel about that. And I feel like that’s a good spot to wrap up. And to close this episode. I appreciate you taking the time to listen to the fourth installment of the Karat Juice Podcast. Please, it is very helpful, and I would enjoy it a lot. If you leave me a review. Let me know what you’re thinking about the show. Any feedback that you have will be greatly warranted, it helps out a lot. Tell your friends about the podcast Whoa. You know, whoever you think might enjoy this content or might get some value out of it. Please spread the word. I will be like I said before pushing these podcasts out every Tuesday. So put your notification bells up. But your make sure that if you haven’t already subscribed to the– to the podcast, I can’t even speak right now. It’s been a long day. So but yeah, make sure that you support it is appreciated. So without further ado, I’m about to get out of here. So if you’re in a position right now where you don’t know what you’re going to do next, or you’re kind of wary about where you’re going, look inward, everything that you need is inside of you. Don’t let anybody tell you that. You can’t do something. You can do something if you put your mind to it. And don’t let failure be something that keeps you down. You only fail if you stay down.

Alright. So hug somebody. Eat something good. Love somebody. And I’ll see you guys in the next one. Peace.

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Episode Summary

(Episode 3) In this episode, I cover some topics of note from the past week. 

– Tiger Woods, what happened? What does this mean for golf moving forward and his career… 

– A rant …. does the culture really need coverage on KimYe departure?!

– Mortal Kombat 2021 Trailer/Reaction… nostalgic goodness bringing back good memories. 

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Ep. 2 Judas & The Black Messiah Reaction

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In today’s podcast episode on culture, we will dive deeper into the Judas & The Black Messiah film. In this podcast episode I will give my first reactions, insights, and overall thoughts on the production. So kick back, relax… preferably with one of your favorite beverages and some popped corn, and enjoy the show. 

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Ep. 1 A Long Time Coming

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Welcome to the Karat Juice Podcast. This is the pilot episode of The Karat Juice Podcast where you can expect to get Commentary & Perspective on Popular Culture, Dating, True Crime & Productivity. On todays show, I introduce myself, dive into consumerism in America, and discuss The Association. So sit back, relax, grab a beverage and some popcorn, and indulge.

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Yes! Welcome.. welcome.. welcome… so welcome everybody to the show. I’m your host, Montay, this is the Karat Juice podcast the inaugural episode. It’s been a long time coming a little bit of background about me. I’m born and raised in Grand Rapids, Michigan. For the longest time. I’ve been influenced I’ve had the ability to grow up around great friends and family who’ve always engaged in conversations about a variety of things which I’ve really credited to shaping my world view.

So what is Karat Juice? What can you expect in this podcast? The first thing you can expect ..you can expect me to give you some rants, give you some insight, give you some my thoughts on a variety of different topics. I didn’t want to pigeonhole this show into being about one particular thing because I think about a plethora of things. So in this particular episode, I got some topics that I’m gonna cover that I find interesting and I hope that you guys enjoy what I have to say.

Later on I’m going to also give you some ways to reach out to me with any feedback you might have any topics you want me to cover and that’s all welcome.

Why am I doing this podcast? The reason why is for the longest time I’ve always had a love of audio in general. Like when I listened to my first audiobook when I was in college 21 years old 20-21 years old. I was working for a landscaping company and at this landscaping company we would work outside.. manual labor.. pretty hot, summer days. And while working.. I love that type of work by the way. I loved going somewhere… seeing dirt and seeing gravel and seeing rocks and then coming up with a plan on how we would you know do the landscape. And then by the end of the day at the end of the day’s work you see this entirely different.. you know.. product. It’s something beautiful. I’ve always said there is something rewarding about seeing your work. But I digress but while doing that work I remember listening to audio books and then one of my favorite audio books up to this day

was Stephen King’s “It”. I remember listening to “It”. It was about 52 hours long and while listening to that audiobook it was one of the first times that while the story was playing at that same time I could be doing something strenuous be working really hard sweating but I was in another place. I was literally in another place while doing that because I got so enthralled in that story and from then. I’ve been addicted… been addicted to audiobooks to podcasts to interviews.. all different types of conversations. And then one day I said you know what I think I got something to say. So here goes nothing.

Alright, so first up first thing that I want to cover today. I actually saw the story a couple of days ago it was about a particular artist, a recording artist. Who bought a very expensive pair of wait for it… sandals. Here’s the main line here, credit goes to Complex. Future wears $48,000 sandals made out of Birkin bags. Sheesh! $48,000 sandals.. where are you going? Where… where are you going? If I had some $48,000 sandals I would think I’m walking to Saturn. Like I’m walking outer space.. like those things better come with a cappuccino maker. They better come with… uh my personalized assistant and a rocket. It better come with a lifetime supply of uh Culver’s sandwiches and custard. You know black card, Wow! And I just I heard the article I mean. I’m not hating if you got it and apparently he does but wow. Like and today’s culture in today’s day and age. It made me think about when you get stuff like that when you buy something that expensive does it fulfill you? Because I know in my personal experience. I’ve never bought anything that expensive. Okay not going front, okay the highest price item I’ve ever bought was my car and that was like a fraction of that price. So I’ll leave it at that. However, when I have bought things that I thought I really wanted in the past. You ever bought something and you really wanted it before? You know whether it be like a pair of shoes or a particular phone or anything you’ve bought that was an amount of money maybe $1200 $1500 right. You buy it leading up to it you’re looking at the reviews and you’re figuring out you know what color, what style you want. And eventually you save up the money. You buy it, you get the item to your place. You open up the packaging. You take it out. You look at it. It looks good right, looks nice and then what?

I would say most of the time those couple of days –couple weeks after you’ve gotten that thing you realize that that’s not what you really like you could have lived without it um so

I bet you he loves them but for me it just stood out to me that where are we going as a culture right now that we got people buying 48 000 sandals

I know Jesus wore sandals but I know they won $48 thousand dollars I mean come on let’s be real uh so apparently these sandals according to the article as the name makes them clear so they’re called Birkin stocks and apparently the article says as the name makes clear the sandal boasts leather that’s sourced from genuine Birkin bags which are disassembled before being flattened and cut into a pattern atop a Birkenstock cork footbed with a rubber sole so it’s a $48 000 Birkenstock. With uh… some branding. Sheesh! Um. and another thing that this article made me think about was why do we consume so much in America. I did realize luckily at a younger age that I didn’t like commercials. I would try to you know mute them when I’m watching something on tv because the consumerism has kind of gotten out of hand. and I do understand that we got to have certain products but I’m a firm believer in less is more

uh quality over quantity um and first of all you just be happier because you got less stuff around but I’ve also noticed that the the more I’ve given stuff away the better I felt in general so I just found that as crazy first of all that people are willing to pay that much for a sandal but I think as a culture. We can start unveiling what is really going on and hopefully understanding that just because you can buy it doesn’t mean you have to buy it and I’ll leave that at that. Moving on, I don’t know if you guys have heard but there is another artist by the name of oozy vert. I heard that Mr. Vert recently got a procedure done. What kind of procedure do you ask? Well apparently, his vertness got a $24 million dollar pink diamond embedded in his forehead. Let me say that again. Apparently, this guy got a $24 million dollar diamond embedded into his forehead. The reason I don’t know. Like knowing me if I like the diamond that much

I would probably take a picture of it and i walked away. At least it got a memory of it right? But I got so many questions. Like what happen if it gets… like how do you clean it first of all? Do you take it out? But then I feel like if you took it out you might like you know turn into ash like vision and avengers or do you like go get you know quarterly checkups to make sure it’s not infected i have so many questions it just seems like a a hazard also when you out and about in the world and people know you didn’t have to let people know you got a 24 million dollar diamond in your forehead what if like that’s gotta be a security risk right I wish him the best but you thought the sandals were consumerism that is nuts as far as I’m concerned he’s he’s walking around with a whole mansion on his dome. I mean I’m talking about mansion that got the hillside view infinity pool you know a whole uh staff he’s got that whole deal on his head. When’s enough-enough? Like me personally, I like nice things. I like to eat I’m a foodie. I like a good steak, some mashed potatoes, some corn, a little garlic bread, little onions with some mushrooms. You know saute them.. put them on top of the steak. I made a steak the other night actually. I made a wagyu steak.. legit okay that was a good time and that didn’t cost more than a hundred dollars. I guess I’m not your normal joe.. but sheesh.

I guess I’m just out of touch huh? Technically, I’m in the millennial generation but I think we’re on to something. I think that the younger people have put for the most part have put less value on material things and more value on experiences. And I think there’s something to that I’ve been the happiest and had the best moments in my life revolved around things that I’ve done. People that I’ve met. Experiences that I’ve had.. rather than what I wear and I think the sooner we can get to that as people the happier we can be. And that’ll put a bow on that for now. I have a feeling there’s going to be some more stories there’s going to be some more you know definitely things for me to cover when it comes to the outrageous consumerism and when that happens dang it I’ll be here and I have some more content for you.

Okay and moving on to another topic that I wanted to get into today for this the association. I’m a huge sports fan love the NBA. A lot of people talk about how much they like college how much the NBA they don’t play that hard but I like to see the best of the best on the hardwood getting buckets and a team that I wanted to highlight uh today right now is those feisty Houston rockets i haven’t been watching before uh like last week I hadn’t watched a lot of the Houston rockets because James Harden left I figured that they weren’t going to be the best but they got a black head coach, Stephen Silas, who’s doing a hell of a job by the way shout outs to Mr. Silas.

the team the makeup of the team a lot of people talk about how they don’t like the NBA and they they don’t like how soft it’s gotten you should watch the rockets

almost every player on their team has something to prove they have a collective chip on their shoulder coach Silas said the other day and I agree you just go down their roster and you’ll you’ll see what I’m talking about john wall tore his ACL and then right after that tore his Achilles was out for like two years now he’s out on the court hasn’t missed a beat playing hard playing gritty diving for loose balls running the team being a floor general talking trash too I’m all for that Eric Gordon a lot of injuries throughout his career but it’s always had talent always been a an aggressive attacking scorer can give you a ton of buckets in a hurry strong he’s got a chip then you got another player like Victor Oladipo that came from the pacers was having an amazing uh campaign with the pacers two years ago until he got hurt and like i think he like ruptured his quad or something like that but it was a pretty serious injury and he wasn’t quite himself in Indiana he was working him his way back and then he got dealt and now he’s with the rockets and he’s looking like victor “Ola” — “Odipo” and I’m loving it. Playing hard and a lot of these players can play two ways. Both ways defense and offense aggressive.. You know steal the ball from you got a mean mug on their face like I’m all for that type of energy. Then there’s PJ Tucker. Everybody know what he does. What he brings to the table. Aggressive… very tough.. always hustling, diving for loose balls, bumping people. Reminds me of me when I play basketball never played at a high level but I always loved the physical contact. I always loved to be aggressive when I played and they remind me of that it’s very. You know it’s beautiful to watch and then there’s players like Jesean Tate, their rookie. Who uh was overseas a couple years ago playing in like china or something like that undrafted but if when you see him play he reminds you of PJ Tucker. I think he’s 6’5 240 pounds. Strong, plays defense, will hit the open corner three… not backing down from anybody, getting loose balls, love it. He got a whole bag of chip chips on his shoulder like just aggressive love that kind of reminds me of Draymond Green. And I respect Draymond shout out to Michigan State. With that being said the Houston Rockets. I think they have a top five defense and they’re not too shabby on offense as well and I almost forgot another player that they have DeMarcus Cousins, “Boogie” been through a lot everybody knows his injury history i think he tore his ACL most recently but before that it was an Achilles and he’s been kind of for the past two years people questioning if he could ever play at a top level like an all-star center again and he’s showing us some stuff for the rockets this year so it’s exciting shout out to the Houston Rockets fans so keep them on your radar. If you see the rockets playing show them some love if you like 90s 2000s throwback basketball you will be entertained

moving on that was my positive note when it came to the association my negative note

the team that needs to come up to the front of the class and speak for themselves

Brooklyn Nets I’m calling on you come on up here Kyrie come on up here James what in the tomfoolery is going on with you guys on defense

I don’t know if they’re basketball players or valet there’s literally just open lanes to the basket all day. I think they’re giving up like 140 points a game the Brooklyn basketball nets they got a ton of offense they’re very talented Kyrie Irving is one of my favorite players to watch he’ll sauce on you hit you with a duggy spin move hit you with the filet at the rim poetry in motion that’s all well and good offensively

but defensively he couldn’t guard a mailbox and it’s bad every night it seems like the team that’s playing the Brooklyn Nets has one of their players go off for a career night a couple weeks ago Collin Sexton. I think he dropped 45. a couple nights later Russell Westbrook goes off of 40 something and Bradley Beal adds another 37 and he didn’t even have a good first half it’s crazy and there’s a lot of people talking about James Harden, Durant, Kyrie, it’s a big three.

It’s not a big three until they play some D. Because as of right now I don’t see them getting out of the second round in the league and I love basketball I want to see the stars playing but Brooklyn step it up they don’t need to talk about offense for the rest of the year they’ll they’ll get 120 points in their sleep the problem is the teams that they’re playing is getting 140 130. your 120 don’t mean nothing if you can’t stop anybody

sheesh as you guys well I’ll let you guys know right now I’m a huge LeBron fan Lakers look good right now the association is in good hands there’s great basketball games coming up this weekend so I’m looking forward to watching that but I just had to get that off of my chest she’s Brooklyn come on get it together i got faith in you guys all right so

we’re getting to the conclusion of this uh inaugural episode here and to wrap up today’s show i just wanted to leave you guys with um some reflection so

the word of the day thought of the day right now is just gratitude i have so much gratitude for all the people I have in my life for the friends i have for the opportunity that i have to first of all be alive in these times that we have with covet so i hope everybody’s being safe out there and that we get through this eventually with the vaccines and all that and social distancing but i encourage you to have gratitude for where you are in your life for having shelter having food

and having the ability to add value to other people in your particular way no matter what that might be the quote of the week is one of my favorite quotes of all time it’s a quote by a great martial artist the name of Bruce Lee and this is how it goes:

“Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is essentially your own” – Bruce Lee and that’s going to be it for the show today.

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Also coming up in shows coming up in the coming week I’m going to be releasing these weekly I will most likely be covering some of the things that are going on as far as with politics I’m not going to get too political on this show but i think it needs to be addressed we have the impeachment trial going on with the former president for the former president Donald Trump and then we also have senators bickering about stimulus packages and uh apparently q anon senators as well which is nuts so I’m gonna be covering some of that but also keeping it light keeping it fun and putting my perspective on things so until we meet again.

Have a great day. Eat something good. Hug somebody. Love somebody, till we meet again, peace.

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